Posts by bohm

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Looking for evolutionary info on how smells can be carried on DNA

by Crabby in

as i said last night the smell of pus from an infection is recognized by all puppies without their being exposed to the smell previously, this is shown because all puppies react the same way to this smell, which is to lick the infected pus laden wound.. this demonstrates that smells are carried on dna in some way.

any thoughts on how?.

bohm

crabby: I disagree with you that DNA is required for evolution (biologists believe RNA was a precursor to DNA).

At any rate, I am simply trying to understand your argument. You are starting from the premise that we don't understand (or fully understand as some of the mechanisms are understood, see the wikipedia page) the mechanisms according to which information is passed down in these epigenetics experiments. But what is the conclusion based on that lack of understanding? That a supernatural force must pass down the information?

I am honestly very puzzled. Could you clearly state the assumptions and the conclusion you draw from this experiment?

Also do you believe the information on e.g. the wikipedia page is accurate or do you reject that as well?

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Looking for evolutionary info on how smells can be carried on DNA

by Crabby in

as i said last night the smell of pus from an infection is recognized by all puppies without their being exposed to the smell previously, this is shown because all puppies react the same way to this smell, which is to lick the infected pus laden wound.. this demonstrates that smells are carried on dna in some way.

any thoughts on how?.

bohm

crabby: Okay, but I think we got to talk specifics. If you simply look at the wikipedia page on epigenetics you can see different mechanisms according to which information can be transmitted between generations, none of which involve any supernaturalism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgenerational_epigenetic_inheritance

I am honestly puzzled about what you are arguing. Are you saying that epigenetics somehow falsifies evolution? In other words, that the findings that information can be transmitted require a supernatural cause because the above mechanisms can't account for it? In this case it would seem you have to argue the above mechanisms can all be ruled out for the particular experiment you have in mind...

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Looking for evolutionary info on how smells can be carried on DNA

by Crabby in

as i said last night the smell of pus from an infection is recognized by all puppies without their being exposed to the smell previously, this is shown because all puppies react the same way to this smell, which is to lick the infected pus laden wound.. this demonstrates that smells are carried on dna in some way.

any thoughts on how?.

bohm

Crabby: I am confused about what you are actually asking. Is it in relationship to the epigenetics article?

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

bohm

I am sensing some dodging...

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

bohm

Crabby: So what is your level of education then?

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Looking for evolutionary info on how smells can be carried on DNA

by Crabby in

as i said last night the smell of pus from an infection is recognized by all puppies without their being exposed to the smell previously, this is shown because all puppies react the same way to this smell, which is to lick the infected pus laden wound.. this demonstrates that smells are carried on dna in some way.

any thoughts on how?.

bohm

How would epigenetics transmit new information if it merely modifies existing genes?

You realize genes are the bits of the DNA that carries most of the information so asking how a process that modifies genes can transmit information is a bit odd!

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

bohm

Crabby: the "you don't have an education" routine is getting a bit stale, especially considering many on this forum has done significant reading on science and you aren't exactly coming across as a person who has read too widely.

What's your education?

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Looking for evolutionary info on how smells can be carried on DNA

by Crabby in

as i said last night the smell of pus from an infection is recognized by all puppies without their being exposed to the smell previously, this is shown because all puppies react the same way to this smell, which is to lick the infected pus laden wound.. this demonstrates that smells are carried on dna in some way.

any thoughts on how?.

bohm

I am soooooooo stupid I am beginning to read the b's as p's lol.

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

bohm

Crabby: Well, but here is the thing: The JW population may on average not have advanced education because 1) advanced education is discouraged and 2) if you have advanced education you are more likely to leave.

So here is a brain teaser: If you take those two together, do you think the population of ex-jws necessarily is as uneducated (for lack of a better word) than the jw population?

On this topic, what is your level of education?

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

bohm

Crabby: Wait what? you think people on this side are generally uneducated?!

To be honest, the questions you have about the basics of the genetics of the olfactory system kinda indicate you might not be the most diligent and self-critical researcher...