Crabby = Santa makes sense.
If you put them together you get "Crabby Santa", which is basically how I would describe the God of the old testament!
anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.
Crabby = Santa makes sense.
If you put them together you get "Crabby Santa", which is basically how I would describe the God of the old testament!
all us creationists try to do is offer true evidence that the one and only god is out there watching and looking down on us.
we present that certain scientists know the truth about god and that he is everything that we see from trees, life, weather, the air we breath, and even the most simple molecules.
but of course you atheists reject it because it is your nature to not be humble and see god because you want to rule your own life.
Speaking for myself, it is because I am angry at God for holding me accountable for my sinful ways.
as i said last night the smell of pus from an infection is recognized by all puppies without their being exposed to the smell previously, this is shown because all puppies react the same way to this smell, which is to lick the infected pus laden wound.. this demonstrates that smells are carried on dna in some way.
any thoughts on how?.
and by the way, my nym is spelled "Bohm", after the physicist.
as i said last night the smell of pus from an infection is recognized by all puppies without their being exposed to the smell previously, this is shown because all puppies react the same way to this smell, which is to lick the infected pus laden wound.. this demonstrates that smells are carried on dna in some way.
any thoughts on how?.
crabby:
My conclusion to the mouse experiment is that there is likely a layer to DNA information storage, that may be completely not understood, or perhaps not even seen.
But nobody on this thread is questioning that, just look at the wikipedia page which describe alternative ways information can be passed to offspring!
The conclusion is the end, since this is new there is no conclusion. Conclusions are needed for personality types that need closure and are not prepared to experiment and evaluate the results
aha. So this talk about epigenetics, dogs and generally insulting people on this board on their level of education and you don't use the example of dogs to support any particular point. Oh dear...
as i said last night the smell of pus from an infection is recognized by all puppies without their being exposed to the smell previously, this is shown because all puppies react the same way to this smell, which is to lick the infected pus laden wound.. this demonstrates that smells are carried on dna in some way.
any thoughts on how?.
Crabby, I was just making a point regarding your statement about DNA...
What is your answer to my other question in the post?
as i said last night the smell of pus from an infection is recognized by all puppies without their being exposed to the smell previously, this is shown because all puppies react the same way to this smell, which is to lick the infected pus laden wound.. this demonstrates that smells are carried on dna in some way.
any thoughts on how?.
crabby: I disagree with you that DNA is required for evolution (biologists believe RNA was a precursor to DNA).
At any rate, I am simply trying to understand your argument. You are starting from the premise that we don't understand (or fully understand as some of the mechanisms are understood, see the wikipedia page) the mechanisms according to which information is passed down in these epigenetics experiments. But what is the conclusion based on that lack of understanding? That a supernatural force must pass down the information?
I am honestly very puzzled. Could you clearly state the assumptions and the conclusion you draw from this experiment?
Also do you believe the information on e.g. the wikipedia page is accurate or do you reject that as well?
as i said last night the smell of pus from an infection is recognized by all puppies without their being exposed to the smell previously, this is shown because all puppies react the same way to this smell, which is to lick the infected pus laden wound.. this demonstrates that smells are carried on dna in some way.
any thoughts on how?.
crabby: Okay, but I think we got to talk specifics. If you simply look at the wikipedia page on epigenetics you can see different mechanisms according to which information can be transmitted between generations, none of which involve any supernaturalism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgenerational_epigenetic_inheritance
I am honestly puzzled about what you are arguing. Are you saying that epigenetics somehow falsifies evolution? In other words, that the findings that information can be transmitted require a supernatural cause because the above mechanisms can't account for it? In this case it would seem you have to argue the above mechanisms can all be ruled out for the particular experiment you have in mind...
as i said last night the smell of pus from an infection is recognized by all puppies without their being exposed to the smell previously, this is shown because all puppies react the same way to this smell, which is to lick the infected pus laden wound.. this demonstrates that smells are carried on dna in some way.
any thoughts on how?.
anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.
I am sensing some dodging...
anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.