SBF: I was about to write a flippant reply about "not knowing the UK is out", but then I realized I would properly agree with you this once ;-). What is the writing in the Scottish press? Do you think the UK would accept another referendum for independence?
Posts by bohm
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No! No! No! This can't be true? brexit? No!
by purrpurr init seems britain has voted to leave the eu in a move of total madness!
the markets are already in free fall and the moronic bigots who campaigned for this are celebrating the demise of our country .. i can't see how a 49-51% split can be democratic?
there is still the postal vote to come in, maybe there's hope in that?
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No! No! No! This can't be true? brexit? No!
by purrpurr init seems britain has voted to leave the eu in a move of total madness!
the markets are already in free fall and the moronic bigots who campaigned for this are celebrating the demise of our country .. i can't see how a 49-51% split can be democratic?
there is still the postal vote to come in, maybe there's hope in that?
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bohm
DJS: You are 100% right on the demographics of the #brexit: Older and uneducated.
Muslim immigration, contrary to #brexit claims, has nothing to do with the EU since the UK refused to be part of the EU scheme for relocation of Syrian refugees. They also has the right to maintain their own borders because they are not part of Schengen. I believe many #brexit voters are not aware of this and believe the EU is causing immigration.
The main immigration problem affecting #brexit voters is the free movement of labor within EU. This means a Polish plumber has the right to work in the UK and many brexit voters believe this is destroying the UK economy and social systems, claims that has little or no basis in reality. Immigrants from the EU to the UK are younger, better educated and benefit the UK and is an important contribution to the UK GDP.
When the UK leave the EU they will be outside the agreement on free movement of labor. However to be part of the EU trading zone this WILL be a demand by the EU and most likely will be the case. That is, to have the same agreement as Norway, they must allow free movement of labor and pay their dues to the EU. Many #Brexit voters are not aware of this either, or believe the UK will be able to negotiate some special arrangement.
In negotiating such an arrangement the UK has far, far less negotiation power than the EU (the EU is half the trade of the UK) and EU has political reasons to demand the UK conform to conditions similar to Norway or stricter to prevent further fragmentation.
On top of that many EU citizens see the English as spoiled kids who has complained and had their ways for 20 years with special agreements and rebates and that it is about time someone put the foot down and showed them the door. In is in, out is out. For instance, the UK has stood in the way for further regulations on the financial markets which is very unpopular in the rest of the EU. In local media I have seen "crazy girlfriend" used to describe the UK.
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Surfing, Nemo and Patrick Thrive in New System
by Funchback inhttps://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/end-of-the-world/.
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bohm
Yup.
They just don't want us to have sex.TOMO3 sees no contradiction there. He asked his wife and she confirmed sex was not fun at all...
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No! No! No! This can't be true? brexit? No!
by purrpurr init seems britain has voted to leave the eu in a move of total madness!
the markets are already in free fall and the moronic bigots who campaigned for this are celebrating the demise of our country .. i can't see how a 49-51% split can be democratic?
there is still the postal vote to come in, maybe there's hope in that?
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bohm
I love how sweden has gone From safe to 2nd worse rape country in the world, muslim communities not integrating and growing with no go zones, problems left and right but liberal answer is those problems don't exist and should allow continue allowing mass immigration or a bigot. Liberals are the biggest bigots of them all
Thus, the immigration policy enacted by Swedish politicians voted in by Swedish voters using their national sovereignty is very relevant for why the UK should leave EU. Indeed, the EU project is undemocratic because of decisions the individual nations make. Go #Brexit!, #LiberalismIsNazismLitterally -
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No! No! No! This can't be true? brexit? No!
by purrpurr init seems britain has voted to leave the eu in a move of total madness!
the markets are already in free fall and the moronic bigots who campaigned for this are celebrating the demise of our country .. i can't see how a 49-51% split can be democratic?
there is still the postal vote to come in, maybe there's hope in that?
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bohm
fulltimestudent: The best predictor in the election was a university education. The leave-vote is nationalistically/emotionally driven and not based on rational arguments IMO; when things don't pan out (and I think the UK should be thrown out quickly and negotiated with like any other country to protect the EU from similar nationalistic movements from within, sorry 48%) they will pass the buck to a new group.
Perhaps it is still the EUs fault (God knows Boris will still have to enact pretty much the same rules to maintain vital trade relations), perhaps it will be the Muslims.
Northern Ireland is going to be a clusterf#ck because the agreement is funded by the EU. I think they will remain (but things could blow up) and the Scots go.
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Watchtower and Brexit
by jwleaks inso britain is leaving the european union (eu).. the governing body of jehovah's witnesses have over the past year moved the majority of its european activities to the control of watchtower britain and the ibsa primarily because of britain's membership with the eu.. further, the incorporated pseudo-political lobby group, european association of jehovah's christisn witnesses, based in brussels, is administered by watchtower britain and its officers.
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expect major changes in the structure of watchtower..
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Sorry JW_rogue, I thought you were against globalism. I think the EU is a great idea, it saddens me both for the British people and the entire idea about a more united europa has hit a severe setback. I hope to see the consequences reversed within my time.
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Watchtower and Brexit
by jwleaks inso britain is leaving the european union (eu).. the governing body of jehovah's witnesses have over the past year moved the majority of its european activities to the control of watchtower britain and the ibsa primarily because of britain's membership with the eu.. further, the incorporated pseudo-political lobby group, european association of jehovah's christisn witnesses, based in brussels, is administered by watchtower britain and its officers.
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expect major changes in the structure of watchtower..
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bohm
If Obama had the choice he'd have the US join the EU. Hillary is the same, they are globalists through and through.
Build a giant wall all around the country and put a tinfoil roof on top. Only way to be sure. Go #Brexit!
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Watchtower and Brexit
by jwleaks inso britain is leaving the european union (eu).. the governing body of jehovah's witnesses have over the past year moved the majority of its european activities to the control of watchtower britain and the ibsa primarily because of britain's membership with the eu.. further, the incorporated pseudo-political lobby group, european association of jehovah's christisn witnesses, based in brussels, is administered by watchtower britain and its officers.
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expect major changes in the structure of watchtower..
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bohm
Scotland might not vote to leave the UK even if Nicola Sturgeon does. Who will protect Scotland in the event of war?
They would join Nato, so you would :-). Anyway, I am sure they won't leave. Go #brexit!
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No! No! No! This can't be true? brexit? No!
by purrpurr init seems britain has voted to leave the eu in a move of total madness!
the markets are already in free fall and the moronic bigots who campaigned for this are celebrating the demise of our country .. i can't see how a 49-51% split can be democratic?
there is still the postal vote to come in, maybe there's hope in that?
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bohm
#Brexit: Let's shoot ourselves in the foot. With no foot, we will run faster as there is less wind resistance
EU: Sounds kind of dumb are y...
#Brexit: *BOOM*
EU: Tell me you didn't shoot yourself in the foot
#Brexit!: I might be bleeding! but I am not dead! #BREXIT WINS!
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No! No! No! This can't be true? brexit? No!
by purrpurr init seems britain has voted to leave the eu in a move of total madness!
the markets are already in free fall and the moronic bigots who campaigned for this are celebrating the demise of our country .. i can't see how a 49-51% split can be democratic?
there is still the postal vote to come in, maybe there's hope in that?
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bohm
For starters it will mean no more EU grants to British research which, if anyone knows the grant system, is a major source of funding. Thats great news because its about time those eggheads who incorrectly predicts this will be bad for uk economy got defunded.