Posts by ablebodiedman

"Then if anyone says to YOU, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. 25 Look! I have forewarned YOU. 26 Therefore, if people say to YOU, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner chambers,’ do not believe it.

So lets imagine a situation where a group of men claim to have a "channel" of direct communication with Jesus Christ from somewhere within the

"inner chambers" of lets say .... the Brooklyn Bethel.

w81 2/15 p. 19 Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible?

We should have confidence in the channel God is using. At the Brooklyn headquarters from which the Bible publications of Jehovah’s Witnesses emanate there are more mature Christian elders, both of the "remnant" and of the "other sheep," than anywhere else upon earth.

Men who claim that what they say comes directly from Jesus Christ!

w59 5/1 p. 269 Attain Completeness in the New World Society

7 To hold to the headship of Christ, it is therefore necessary to obey the organization that he is personally directing. Doing what the organization says is to do what he says.

Now if we simply obey what Jesus Christ commanded in the scripture posted above; "do not believe it", then we have no need to worry about receiving the mark of the beast mentioned in the Book of Revelation.

On the other hand, if we see a large number of people claiming to be Christian who refuse to obey Jesus Christ commandment above then the very real possibility exists that IT IS THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST!

This is a very profound conclusion that can be reached by reading the Book of Revelation without even having to understand the riddles and symbology.

So yes, there is stuff that even an 8 year old could understand that is hidden in amoungst what people claim to be riddles.

However, if you simply obey what Jesus Christ said in the Gospels then you don't have to worry about the Book of Revelation.

abe

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Why is God speaking in riddles?

by sosoconfused in

it seems for most of the bible that god spoke directly to people and told them what to do.

he wrote things on rocks.

he gave them laws.

ablebodiedman

ablebodied - so it seems best to just not be a christian and then we can avoid all of this stuff...

sosoconfused,

Then I guess your concerns about being saved above are really not valid.

Sure, you can avoid being saved!

abe

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Why is God speaking in riddles?

by sosoconfused in

it seems for most of the bible that god spoke directly to people and told them what to do.

he wrote things on rocks.

he gave them laws.

ablebodiedman

Here is a scripture from the Book of Revelation that overturns the popular opinion of the vast majority of Christians, including the Watchtower Society:

Revelation 19:19-20

And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army. 20 And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image.

It is the false prophet who misleads those who receive the mark of the wild beast!

But hey, Jesus Christ made it clear and straight forward in the Gospels that the false prophets would come in his name to misrepresent him.

The important thing to understand here that even an 8 year old would unerstand is that the false prophet will claim to be Christian!

Having understood that you could ask your 8 year old who will not receive the mark of the wild beast.

What factions on this planet would not listen to a true Christian Prophet let alone a False one.

The list represents the vast majority of the planets population:

Atheists

Jews

Muslims

Hindus

Sikhs

Buddhists

Keep going with all the non Christian Religions who do not care what a Christian Prophet has to say whether true or false!

Your 8 year old daughter should easily conclude that it is ONLY Christians who can possibly receive the mark of the beast.

This flies in the face of what the vast majority of Christians and also the Watchtower Society believe.

A very important conclusion that can easily be reached without even having to understand who the wild beast symbolizes!

abe

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Why is God speaking in riddles?

by sosoconfused in

it seems for most of the bible that god spoke directly to people and told them what to do.

he wrote things on rocks.

he gave them laws.

ablebodiedman

So ablebodied you think god wrote a book that peopel dont even need to understand? Then why write it.

This water get murkier and murkier

You do not need to understand the riddles and symbology in the Book of Revelation if you simply obey what Jesus Christ said in the Gospels.

But hey, I will offer to explain something from the Book of Revelation that eludes the vast majority of the Christian population, in a way that even your 8 year old daughter will understand and show why you don't need to understand it if you simply obey what Jesus Christ said in the Gospels.

Are you willing?

abe

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Why is God speaking in riddles?

by sosoconfused in

it seems for most of the bible that god spoke directly to people and told them what to do.

he wrote things on rocks.

he gave them laws.

ablebodiedman

But let us say that God did tell John all these things... to this day no one understands it and no one has proof that anyone does. It would seem to me that a loving God would have no reason to hide life-saving information in the forms of crazy riddles that only a few people would understand and the rest would just have to die.

I am convinced that some people do understand it.

It is not anything like the popular opinion though!

If you want to "Save" your life there are no riddles involved. Let me say that again ..... NO RIDDLES!

Simply obey the things that Jesus Christ said which are completely straight forward.

The riddles and symbology in the Book of Revelation help us understand just how Satans insidious deceptions have caused Christians to disobey Jesus Christ's very straight forwardcommandments in a truly reprehensible way.

A sincere Christian does not even need to comprehend the symbology and riddles if he simply obeys the very straight forward things that Jesus Christ told us.

abe

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Why is God speaking in riddles?

by sosoconfused in

it seems for most of the bible that god spoke directly to people and told them what to do.

he wrote things on rocks.

he gave them laws.

ablebodiedman

So you dont think that Satan can grasp the concept of the Good Samaritan parable??? eventhough my daughter who was like 8 can understand it

So does your daughter who is 8 understand the riddles and symbology in the book of revelation?

abe

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Why is God speaking in riddles?

by sosoconfused in

it seems for most of the bible that god spoke directly to people and told them what to do.

he wrote things on rocks.

he gave them laws.

ablebodiedman

I must admit that there is not one parable in the bible that can't be understood by a 5 year old. Maybe one or two but a 10 year old could grasp those. In regards to Satan not understanding a parable in the bible... I am not sure I can buy that. So if Satan were to read some of the parables of Jesus he wouldn't understand them is what you guys are saying? sosoconfused, What I am saying is that there is evidence that Satan had absolutely no idea what the old testament riddles meant. If he did understand them then he would not have manipulated the circumstances that lead to Jesus Christs crucifixion. But he did! That Satan had read the old testament scriptures is clearly proven in the new testament. Is it safe to also assume that he has now read the new testament? Is it also safe to assume that he also does not properly understand the new testament riddles and symbology? As evidenced by his actions in the first century after having proved that he read the old testament. abe

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Why is God speaking in riddles?

by sosoconfused in

it seems for most of the bible that god spoke directly to people and told them what to do.

he wrote things on rocks.

he gave them laws.

ablebodiedman

Skeptic - I don't think there is enough evidence to believe in god

Christian - You are the evidence that there is a God.

Skeptic - How can I be evidence that there is a God?

Christian - Where then do you think you came from?

Skeptic - I have no idea, but eventually I think acredited scientists with diplomas and certificates will be smart enought to think of an answer.

Christian - That takes an enormous amount of faith in the scientists ability to think.

Skeptic - That is why I am willing to wait. Simply because I have faith that intelligent men have the knowledge and ability to figure it out.

Christian - But when you see what is happening around the world does that not measure the value of what intelligent men are thinking.

Skeptic - Of course not.

Christian - Is that because the most intelligent men in the world are not intelligent enought to make a difference?

Skeptic - Yes, but its better than believing we were created by God.

Christian - Your faith in something that has absolutely no evidence is enormous!

Skeptic - That is what I am going to believe until you can prove that I was created by God.

Christian - I am going to continue believing that I was created by God unless you can prove that whatever ponzi scheme the most intelligent men in the world can come up with next, is better than that.

Wash, rinse and repeat ad nauseum