Religion is all about the attempt to twist reality or outright lie to further their agenda. It is very difficult to remain intellectually honest and religious. The 2 are not compatible with one another.
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25We're not trying to convert you
by jws inrecently i saw a link to an article from the st. petersburg times (one of these links on the side of this forum to sometimes old articles).
it was an article about jws and their preaching work.
imo, middle to favorable.. but the one thing was from a door where the jws are saying they're not here to convert anyone, they just want to share a scripture.. what sort of bs is this?
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Islam is the Epitome of Misogyny
by cofty inin this video the popular saudi cleric sheik yahya al-jana discusses the joys of paradise, saying that men will have the strength of a hundred men in paradise and will be busy tearing hymens, while the virgins of paradise, whose breasts are like pomegranates, become virgins every time again.. the cleric also explains it is mostly men who enter paradise noting that women in general are bad because they refuse to wear the veil, they wear tight clothes in shopping malls, put on perfume and jewelry, and use filthy social media platforms.
source.... this is what young men from conservative muslim families are raised on.
is it any wonder islamic countries treat women appallingly?.
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me and my new girlfriend
by justthenorm inyou see ive started dating this girl and her family is of strong jehova belief.
now i am not i do see certain things in there studie that is true in my opinion but ive never really been a religion type of person.
i think i want to marry her but i am not a jehovas witness and am not looking to be anytime at all she says that is ok and we can still get married but i dont know how its possible or where we would even do it please i need advice
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Heaven
justthenorm, welcome to our discussion board.
Boy oh boy, I do feel for you. If you are not a JW but dating one, then know this. The JWs' sole purpose in life is to convert people to their religion. They call it 'the life-saving work'.
Yes, some of their beliefs are good but so are many other religious groups' beliefs. If you are not a religious person this group is not going to fit for you. Have you taken a look at their publications?
Here are some questions you need to consider:
1) If I marry this girl and we have a child that requires a blood transfusion to stay alive, will we be allowed to let our baby have one?
2) Are we being made aware of child predators/pedophiles within the group?
3) Will our child be allowed to go to College or University?
4) Will we be allowed to celebrate Valentine's Day, Easter, May Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and birthdays?
5) If my gf/wife decides to leave the religion, will her friends and family continue to associate with her?
6) How much money are you willing to part with to support the JW 'world-wide work' and how frequently?
7) Are you prepared to be baptized in the religion, go door-to-door, and become an elder? (FYI, the sisters have recently been urged to marry only men of stature in the religion).
I could go on but these are some pretty important points to consider. I'm sure many others here on the board could add to this list.
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Why Jehovah Does Not Want An Effective Preaching Work
by konceptual99 inso we all know how ineffectual the preaching work really is.
we also know how much the wts hypes up the scope and scale of the global preaching effort.
what the gb should be doing however is emphasising the ineffectiveness of the preaching work.
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Heaven
So JWs have been preaching for quite a long time now, why have they still not preached to these people?
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Heaven
I would love to visit. Send money!
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We're not trying to convert you
by jws inrecently i saw a link to an article from the st. petersburg times (one of these links on the side of this forum to sometimes old articles).
it was an article about jws and their preaching work.
imo, middle to favorable.. but the one thing was from a door where the jws are saying they're not here to convert anyone, they just want to share a scripture.. what sort of bs is this?
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Heaven
Of course they are recruiting.
They call it 'life saving work' and believe if you don't sign up, you are very likely going to die at Armageddon meaning no magical 'living forever on Paradise Earth' prize. In other words, you HAVE to be a JW AND preach for Jehovah in order to gain eternal life.
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Jehovah's Witnesses - People of Integrity
by Saved_JW inwhen i think of integrity, a lot of positive connotations come to mind.
i think of individuals grounded in principles, who do not operate on opinions that change based on the breeze of political or social change.
a life that is directed by a code of morality, not on capricious emotions.
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My personal experience was that my parent's integrity diminished when they decided to dedicate themselves to Jehovah. Elevating themselves to one of God's Chosen, gave them the mythological right to become self-righteous, holier-that-thou, mean-spirited a-holes. Our family was irreparably damaged because of this. -
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Islam is the Epitome of Misogyny
by cofty inin this video the popular saudi cleric sheik yahya al-jana discusses the joys of paradise, saying that men will have the strength of a hundred men in paradise and will be busy tearing hymens, while the virgins of paradise, whose breasts are like pomegranates, become virgins every time again.. the cleric also explains it is mostly men who enter paradise noting that women in general are bad because they refuse to wear the veil, they wear tight clothes in shopping malls, put on perfume and jewelry, and use filthy social media platforms.
source.... this is what young men from conservative muslim families are raised on.
is it any wonder islamic countries treat women appallingly?.
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Oubliette said: I guess they're coming your way!
I'm-a just duck to the side here then.
Oubliette said: Seriously, these nutty religious ideas clearly make no sense and defy even basic logic. I suppose either Mohammed was either bad at math and logical thinking or he knew that most humans are or both.
Yes very true. Religion and faith require you to leave reason and logic behind. Facts and reality seem to constantly contradict these groups. I was a teenager doing the math on the JW 'we preach to all the inhabited Earth'. There is no way the number of JWs on the Earth can service the population of this planet going door-to-door. There was no interwebs back in my youth. Even today, there are a lot of people on the Earth with no interwebs.
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Witnesses - Ever Wondered Why You're So Tired After Assemblies/Meetings?
by The Searcher inrecently shared this with me.. they compared the tiredness they felt after attending an assembly and meetings, and noted how much worse it was than actually working and studying hard for hours for their secular employment!
why were they so exhausted after an assembly/meeting?
no, it wasn't satan.
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Drudgery begets drudgery. -
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Islam is the Epitome of Misogyny
by cofty inin this video the popular saudi cleric sheik yahya al-jana discusses the joys of paradise, saying that men will have the strength of a hundred men in paradise and will be busy tearing hymens, while the virgins of paradise, whose breasts are like pomegranates, become virgins every time again.. the cleric also explains it is mostly men who enter paradise noting that women in general are bad because they refuse to wear the veil, they wear tight clothes in shopping malls, put on perfume and jewelry, and use filthy social media platforms.
source.... this is what young men from conservative muslim families are raised on.
is it any wonder islamic countries treat women appallingly?.
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VI: So, a little bit of logic here. Most women don't make it to Paradise but there's a hundred for every man?
Oubliette: It makes perfect sense. Most women do NOT make it, and obviously only 100th of the men do!
But this is contradictory to what the prophet Mohammed/Muhammad (however you spell it) said about most of the dwellers in Hell being women. Is there somewhere different that the men are going besides Paradise or Hell?
