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The Protect the Children Sham

by HildaBingen in

once upon a time there was an evil antagonist of god named ha satan.

this evildoer thought of many ways to make worldlings oppose god's covenant people.

he finally got a bright idea.

HildaBingen

Again you people overlook the main thrust of the post submitted.

The same people who will act like they want to "protect the children" against the WT support a pedo culture everyday of their lives, especially men do this. Some guys who talk about how wrong it is for an elder to molest a teen--and it is wrong--were some of the very ones salivating at Britney Spears video that she made as a teen in a Catholic school outfit.

Some of these same perverts salivate over Charlotte Church. How sick! Buncha hypocrites.

:Instead they threaten their victims with shunning to protect their precious reputation. (By the way, that reputation is only precious within their tiny community. The rest of the world sees Witnesses as nothing more than a slightly wacky fringe group who don't celebrate holidays or take blood.):

Where is the evidence that JW victims have been punished FOR being victims. Do you have any hard evidence?

And as far as the world goes, I would rather please God anyday than this satanic world. Why observe holidays or take blood? One practice is clearly pagan and the other could be risky. How you gonna feel if your kid gets a disease from blood?

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The Protect the Children Sham

by HildaBingen in

once upon a time there was an evil antagonist of god named ha satan.

this evildoer thought of many ways to make worldlings oppose god's covenant people.

he finally got a bright idea.

HildaBingen

Once upon a time there was an evil antagonist of God named ha satan. This evildoer thought of many ways to make worldlings oppose God's covenant people. He finally got a bright idea. He thinks to himself that he will make those who oppose jw start saying jws are pedoophiles. That will work.

But what people would overlook is that there is a whole pedo culture surrounding them that they support everyday. From the 16 year old Britney Spears prancing around with hardly anything on her bod, to a teacher in a certain country who had sex with her pupils and was let off by the court system because the boys initiated sex.

Ha satan is a clever devil is he not? why he even made people overlook who received the behind of the year award, a 16 year old, by focusing on jws.

You been duped, peeps. Yes jw have problems. But they will handle them in a godly way. Meanwhile you share in the promotion of a pedo culture.

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JW Kids - More Frightened Than Most?

by Englishman in

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friends

ive recently been in contact with a couple of ex-jws that i knew in my childhood.. what has surfaced is the amount of fear that we experienced as young children when we were involved with the witnesses.

i accept that children often do develop irrational fears as part of growing up, but what i am talking about here is a deep-seated fear of being harmed.. many young children that i grew up with in the witness religion were of an unusually nervous disposition.

i recall how when i was first taken to meetings that i found the whole experience somewhat sinister and strange.

HildaBingen

:What a disgusting misanthropic attitude. One of the most horrible and dangerous features of your primitive superstitions is that they take humanity's greatest virtues and turns them into vices. Our sexual appetite,a source of intense pleasure to most healthy adults, is "depravity".:

Sexual appetite is not "depravity" dear. Inordinate sexual appetite not satisfied in the proper context IS depravity, hon.

:Money, the tool with which we improve our world is "the root of all evil".:

Read your Bible again, dear. That is not what brother Paul wrote.

:The ability to reason, man's greatest triumph is anathema to them; they say: "just have faith", "don't ask questions", "it's a mystery".:

Life is a mystery. Reason has its place. It is just not the end-all and be-all that a number of moderns think it is. So many things are transrational.

:This life is considered valueless, to be mortgaged against the promise of eternal "bliss" in a dimension where nobody gets to do the things that make life worth living.:

And you were brought up in what type of Christianity, dear? It sounds more like you are talking about gnosticism.

:The true depravity is in reducing man to the level of an animal who exists only to serve a barbaric deity. Our greatest acheivement will be when we finally rid ourselves of the credulity of our ancestors and fully embrace rational thought.:

People already have embraced rational thought. It was called the enlightenment, dear. That project has already failed, funky.

And I am not a misandrist. hilda is a feminist who loves everyone.

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JW Kids - More Frightened Than Most?

by Englishman in

jw
friends

ive recently been in contact with a couple of ex-jws that i knew in my childhood.. what has surfaced is the amount of fear that we experienced as young children when we were involved with the witnesses.

i accept that children often do develop irrational fears as part of growing up, but what i am talking about here is a deep-seated fear of being harmed.. many young children that i grew up with in the witness religion were of an unusually nervous disposition.

i recall how when i was first taken to meetings that i found the whole experience somewhat sinister and strange.

HildaBingen

:Yes, as they spew their "woe is the earth" bullshit.

Why don't you try reading some "Chicken Soup for the Soul.":

I do not have time for such rudimentary rubbish. Real women consume real mental food for the soul. I can also see that drinking "chicken soup" has done you a lot of good.

:Granted, the contributors may not have the 'credits' that Camus, Marcel et al had....they have something better. They are CONTENT. They understand that life has its ups and downs. Sometimes things are good, sometimes not so good.:

Life is not all bad. I did not say that it is. It is only mostly bad.

:For my part, I have taken the crate that the WBTS shipped to me in my childhood--the Bill of Lading was marked "Crate full of FEAR INTOLERANCE HATRED" and I have marked that bitch:

The WT only teaches you to fear God, country and parents. That is proper. We also tolerate no rivalry to God's name or any practice of sin in our midst. We hate what is bad and love what is good. Maybe you better have your box shipped back.

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JW Kids - More Frightened Than Most?

by Englishman in

jw
friends

ive recently been in contact with a couple of ex-jws that i knew in my childhood.. what has surfaced is the amount of fear that we experienced as young children when we were involved with the witnesses.

i accept that children often do develop irrational fears as part of growing up, but what i am talking about here is a deep-seated fear of being harmed.. many young children that i grew up with in the witness religion were of an unusually nervous disposition.

i recall how when i was first taken to meetings that i found the whole experience somewhat sinister and strange.

HildaBingen

:The sky is falling! The sky is falling[/h2][/blue]

It's only an acorn, asshole.:

You will think the sky is falling when God wipes away this wicked system, unless you repent.

And if you do not believe me when I say that life stinks in this world, go read some existential philosophers. Read Heidegger, Camus, Marcel, Tillich, or Satre.

You might learn that the sky really is falling.

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JW Kids - More Frightened Than Most?

by Englishman in

jw
friends

ive recently been in contact with a couple of ex-jws that i knew in my childhood.. what has surfaced is the amount of fear that we experienced as young children when we were involved with the witnesses.

i accept that children often do develop irrational fears as part of growing up, but what i am talking about here is a deep-seated fear of being harmed.. many young children that i grew up with in the witness religion were of an unusually nervous disposition.

i recall how when i was first taken to meetings that i found the whole experience somewhat sinister and strange.

HildaBingen

ash:

:Hilda!! I'm surprised at you!!! How could you sell ('l'kiddush hashem.') lil'kids hasish?:

Are you being antisemitic?

matty:

:Hilda. You will have to get the Daily Mail shipped over to you, you will love it.:

Is it better than the awake magazine?

English:

:Rubbish. The world is 90 - 95% excellent. That's what I teach my sons. They know that the world will mirror their attitude just as folk on this site have mirrored yours. You came in bringing division and received divisiveness in return. You get back exactly what you put in. You are getting back exactly what you put in.:

All the wishing in the world does not make a thing true, English. Let God be found true, though every man be found a liar. The whole world lieth in the grip of evil (1 John 5:19). All men are sinners (Romans 3:23). We now have corrupt flesh. Calvin was almost right when he said man is totally depraved. I think man is only mostly depraved.

I came here to express my viewpoint and ask questions. Since when did that become a sin for ex-jws?

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JW Kids - More Frightened Than Most?

by Englishman in

jw
friends

ive recently been in contact with a couple of ex-jws that i knew in my childhood.. what has surfaced is the amount of fear that we experienced as young children when we were involved with the witnesses.

i accept that children often do develop irrational fears as part of growing up, but what i am talking about here is a deep-seated fear of being harmed.. many young children that i grew up with in the witness religion were of an unusually nervous disposition.

i recall how when i was first taken to meetings that i found the whole experience somewhat sinister and strange.

HildaBingen

Been There:

:I was petrified of Armeggedon. Storms scared me. The dark scared me.
Loud noises scared me. I had panic attacks at 8 yrs. old. I go in and out of them to this day and I've been out of the Borg. for 28 yrs. I have had years of counciling and medicine to cope. I am defective. The things I needed to learn as a kid to cope were not taugh. Quite the opposite. I have no self esteem to this day. I am unworthy. I am unlovable. I am not perfect. I am intolerate. I am judgemental. I only have conditional love. I don't know how to feel loved. I am angry for who I might have been. I'm tired of the battles in my head.:

I am not going to belittle you, dear. I can only say that my experiences have been different and so have my children's.

Let me just say that my parents taught me that if you are righteous, you have nothing to fear when Armageddon comes. God will protect you. That is what I try to teach my children.

The world lieth in the grip of the Devil.

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JW Kids - More Frightened Than Most?

by Englishman in

jw
friends

ive recently been in contact with a couple of ex-jws that i knew in my childhood.. what has surfaced is the amount of fear that we experienced as young children when we were involved with the witnesses.

i accept that children often do develop irrational fears as part of growing up, but what i am talking about here is a deep-seated fear of being harmed.. many young children that i grew up with in the witness religion were of an unusually nervous disposition.

i recall how when i was first taken to meetings that i found the whole experience somewhat sinister and strange.

HildaBingen

:Hilda lieth in the grip of Jack Daniel's loving arms.....:

Jack Daniel's? Yuck! Give me some MD 20/20!

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JW Kids - More Frightened Than Most?

by Englishman in

jw
friends

ive recently been in contact with a couple of ex-jws that i knew in my childhood.. what has surfaced is the amount of fear that we experienced as young children when we were involved with the witnesses.

i accept that children often do develop irrational fears as part of growing up, but what i am talking about here is a deep-seated fear of being harmed.. many young children that i grew up with in the witness religion were of an unusually nervous disposition.

i recall how when i was first taken to meetings that i found the whole experience somewhat sinister and strange.

HildaBingen

Mr Englishman:

:Ah Hilda, you have totally blown it now. You know what you are? You are a typical Daily Mail reader!:

What is the Daily Mail?

:Yes, Daily Mail readers and Watchtower readers both have the same problem. You believe that societies problems somehow make you in the right! You believe that every act of violence, every wrongdoing, is some sort of grand proof that what you believe is the truth!:

Believe me I wish the world was not as bad as it is. But this world stinks. Don't just ask me. Ask philosophers who have been atheists or agnostics because of world conditions.

:Mistakenly, you think that that the world is degenerating. It's not. All that's occuring is more newpaper reporting and ever larger amounts of media-hype a la Watchtower that focuses on individual incidents in an attempt to prove it's point.:

And you know this for a fact? Get your hand out of the sand, sir. If 9/11 did not wake you up, if all these suicide bombings don't wake you up, if rises and potential rises in cancer do not wake you up, what will?

:Don't waste your time on Moral Panics, http://www.aber.ac.uk/media/Students/mtw9403.html, life is too short. Love your family and your friends, warts and all, even their (to you) apostasy,:

I love my family and friends. But you know where I draw the line. Those hating Jehovah--I cannot love.

l'kiddush hashem.

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JW Kids - More Frightened Than Most?

by Englishman in

jw
friends

ive recently been in contact with a couple of ex-jws that i knew in my childhood.. what has surfaced is the amount of fear that we experienced as young children when we were involved with the witnesses.

i accept that children often do develop irrational fears as part of growing up, but what i am talking about here is a deep-seated fear of being harmed.. many young children that i grew up with in the witness religion were of an unusually nervous disposition.

i recall how when i was first taken to meetings that i found the whole experience somewhat sinister and strange.

HildaBingen

:1. Sex is for when you're married (hopefully). If you think all good jw kids arent having sex then I'd like to know the name of the planet you live on. Here on Earth, in all 7 of the congregations I went to, the jw kids were getting it on more than the 'worldly' kids. Heck, my worldly friends were virgins and one of my jw friends gave oral sex to a man in his car during a Kingdom Hall building. You're in denial....:

Of course some jw children have sex. But we do not TEACH our children that premarital sex is okay. That is not a fundamental jw tenet. Even Christians in the bible committed sex sins. You would not know that though.

:2.Talk profane is okay? Hmmmm.. we dont allow 'stupid', 'jerk', or anything else rude or offensive. But my jw mother and brother would tell me to F*** off and what a whore I was every other day. Weird, huh?:

Again, jws do not TEACH their children that such language is ok. There may be exceptions, yes. But I am talking about what jws teach and how jws GENERALLY act.

:3. Lewd entertainment is okay? Not! Our kid watches PBS and Nickelodeon, when the tv is allowed to be on. I guess thats much worse than the R and XXX movies I've seen Ministerial Servants go to....:

Where do Jw publications teach kids that R or XXX movies are fine? Why some elders in my circuit even think that you gotta be careful seeing pg-13 movies.

:4. Puffing on cigarettes is okay? We teach our son that they are deadly, cancerous and horrible. I'm sure my jw brothers and sisters that would sneak to the park with me and smoke cigarettes feel much differently... maybe you should ask them.:

Did your parents TEACH them that it was okay to smoke? I sure know that the WT did not teach them this stuff.

:5.The world is not all bad... I teach my son to watch out for predators...you know, the types that prey on innocent, good-hearted people? I teach him to think for himself, to get out of any situation that feels wrong... to be proud of who he is.. that God loves him regardless of his imperfections.:

The world is not all bad. It is only about 90-95% bad. Teach your son that. Do you teach him that the whole world lieth in the grip of the wicked one like 1 John 5:19 says?

:In final, let me tell you this, I was raised in a jw home where there were beatings, screaming, breaking things, drinking, cussing, crying, emotional games, verbal abuse, neglect, and hatred. It was only after I left that I have a good life and live morally.:

I am sorry you had these experiences. But I do not think you yet know the meaning of the word moral.