obviously not the orgs brightest moment for teaching that the generation of 1914 would be alive to see paradise.
forget the "new light" that bought them an extra 100 years, which if any other religion would've done this, the org would scream false religion.
the fact is that for 75 years this #1 recruiting message from the society was a lie.. i asked a current jw to get a calculator and do the math: 2022 - 1914 = an angry reaction.
Obviously not the Orgs brightest moment for teaching that the generation of 1914 would be alive to see paradise. Forget the "new light" that bought them an extra 100 years, which if any other religion would've done this, the Org would scream False Religion. The fact is that for 75 years this #1 recruiting message from the Society was a lie.
I asked a current JW to get a calculator and do the math: 2022 - 1914 = an angry reaction. He was not a happy camper
Has anyone tried this?
anyone remember 1992?
i can remember i was in the cult.
times were changing at a rapid pace.
1995 I stepped down as an elder, faded shortly after and never looked back....
just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.
there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.
i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.
WAS:
fedup of lies in the jw teachings
fedup of canned comments at meetings
fedup of counting time for who knows who
fedup of the double life that jw's live
fedup of wt control on the r & f
fedup.... so I quit 12 years ago
Now... I love my life
maybe there will be a mass exodus from jws when thinking people read feb 2017 watchtower telling them the governing body stuff up, shouldnt expect correct/ perfect information and basically make up guff as they see fit.....ya reckon?.
“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” - Mark Twain
i wish i had read this back when i was 18. it's an amazing take down of religious beliefs, the bible, and religion in general.
) a "reason"-able manner.take this quote, from near the beginning:.
when also i am told that a woman, called the virgin mary, said, or gave out, that she was with child without any cohabitation with a man, and that her betrothed husband, joseph, said that an angel told him so, i have a right to believe them or not: such a circumstance required a much stronger evidence than their bare word for it: but we have not even this; for neither joseph nor mary wrote any such matter themselves.
I love this book, When I read it I couldn't believe it never caught on. Everyone should read it. Once you do you will give up on all the bullshit religions that are out there causing so much pain
french page: .
http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/special/2016/12/temoins-jehovah-agressions-sexuelles-pedophilie-temoignages/.
the french video: .
The video should have English subtitles, I'm going to look into getting it done, if anyone can help with this, please message me
french page: .
http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/special/2016/12/temoins-jehovah-agressions-sexuelles-pedophilie-temoignages/.
the french video: .
i'm not sure where it is airing elsewhere, but on the a&e channel, at 7p then again at 10p est tonight, leah remini is doing a scientology special.
it looks to be a great show.
i am not sure if it is one time, or the beginnings of a series.
I read her book and I couldn't put it down, the similarities to the JW life regarding how the church controls and judges the followers is incredible. I too recommend the book. It also shows that once you see the lies of the church and realize that you've been following a bullshit cult, you still try to justify that your church life wasn't a total waste.
I went through the same feelings, I give her a couple more years and then she will realize that the cult was absolutely a total waste, just as I realized it eventually with the Watchtower.
we learn from the bible that the characters that preached doomsday messages, such as lot, noah, etc all got to see the result of the message they preached, we studied that the final judgement from god was seen by the preacher as well as the people that heard and ignored the message.
my point is this, it would have been ridiculous for noah to start preaching to people, put the fear of god in all the listeners that the flood is coming, build the ark and then as a result, nothing happens to them.
even if the flood would have happened later, let's say 50 years after noah and all the people that heard him have died from natural causes.
Noah and the others would have lost all credibility, as well as God if the message wasn't fulfilled. Not to mention that God could not hold anyone accountable if the end of the system of things keeps getting postponed time after time.
How can God hold any of us accountable for leaving the Watchtower and calling out bullshit?
we learn from the bible that the characters that preached doomsday messages, such as lot, noah, etc all got to see the result of the message they preached, we studied that the final judgement from god was seen by the preacher as well as the people that heard and ignored the message.
my point is this, it would have been ridiculous for noah to start preaching to people, put the fear of god in all the listeners that the flood is coming, build the ark and then as a result, nothing happens to them.
even if the flood would have happened later, let's say 50 years after noah and all the people that heard him have died from natural causes.
We learn from the bible that the characters that preached doomsday messages, such as Lot, Noah, etc all got to see the result of the message they preached, we studied that the final judgement from God was seen by the preacher as well as the people that heard and ignored the message.
My point is this, it would have been ridiculous for Noah to start preaching to people, put the fear of God in all the listeners that the Flood is coming, build the ark and then as a result, nothing happens to them. Even if the flood would have happened later, let's say 50 years after Noah and all the people that heard him have died from natural causes. There would have been NO point for Noah to have received the command from God to preach at that time, if no one would have lived to see it the flood.
God would have simply waited to start the preaching work at a later time so that the ones hearing the message would also get to see the fulfillment.
I think the same should apply today, why start preaching in the 1870's, scare all those people into obedience and then not one of them see the end? All those people, perhaps in the millions are all dead, the ones that preached and the ones that heard and ignored, all dead from natural causes. If God supported the JW's, wouldn't he have acted while they were still alive, like the bible examples we studied?
Just saying....
