The other night I was watching "King of
Queens"with a friend and he said you are "Carrie"!!! I thought about it and he was right.
What character are you?
Crystal
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TV character that describes you
by Crystal inthe other night i was watching "king of .
queens"with a friend and he said you are "carrie"!!!
i thought about it and he was right.. what character are you?
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I like!!! Guess I will be changing my flyers when I follow the JW out in service.
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JW apologist - just fishing for infor
by Cappuccino OC ini've come to the conclusion that certain posters like.
comforter, bernd & other are just jw lurkers seraching for info to.
run back to their elders or the wts.
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I think of them as "double agents"or more like "double hypocrites"
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An example of the way JWs are Brainwashed
by chester ini would like to share with the board an example of a way dubs are brainwashed into equating the internet with satan.
i heard this with my own ears!
in fact i have it on tape.
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I love that they tell you to stay off the internet,,,,think about it , when i was kid if someone told me not to do something,It made me more curious.And the jw that are haveing the slightest doubt will hit the internet to see what the org. dosent want them to know!!
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Rosie R. Magallen/Salinas California area
by LuckyLucy in.
rosie is about 22 years old,has a younger brother jacob hernandez and father arturo.lori, angie and pattycake are looking for her with some good news$$$$!!.
http://communities.msn.com/survivorsofjw.
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The name rings a bell.could u tell me more?
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WHY DO THEY IGNORE PEDOPHILIA?
by Mary inwhy do you think the organization, the governing body in particular, are so reluctant to deal with the issue of pedophilia head on?
after all, they'll disfellowship elders without a moments hesitation for adultery, fornication, smoking, doing drugs, gambling, homosexuality, even murder........what makes the issue of dealing with elders who are guilty of one of the worst crimes of all, raping young children, so foreign to them?.
my own opinion is that the organization is just starting to learn how to live in the 20th century.......forget the 21st century; they won't be there for another 80 years.
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If the active JW really cared they would start a "reform group" Just the like the Catholics!!But all they care about is covering it up!!
THE NATION
Reform Group Calls for Church Changes
Religion: Voice of the Faithful asks the pope to adopt the policies that U.S. bishops approved on priest sex abuse.Reform Group Calls for Church Changes
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more >, Associated Press
BOSTON -- At its first national meeting Saturday, a non-clergy reform group born out of the Roman Catholic priest sexual abuse scandal called for drastic changes in the way the church is governed.
An estimated 4,000 Voice of the Faithful members from 35 states and seven foreign countries signed a petition urging Pope John Paul II to endorse the reform policies that U.S. bishops approved in June.
In a statement, the group vowed to find ways for lay Catholics to "actively participate in the governance and guidance of the Catholic Church." Included among proposals under discussion were policymaking power for lay church members and giving parishioners a role in the appointment of bishops and pastors.
Father Thomas Doyle, keynote speaker and an Air Force chaplain in Germany, said the abuse scandal resulted from "the delusion that the clergy are somehow above the rest." He said some clergymen's "unbridled addiction to power" was a contributing factor.
The word "democracy" strikes fear in many clergy, he said, but lay Catholics need to shed "timidity or fearful deference to the very structures that have betrayed us."
Catholics must also "stop enabling through financial support the power structures" responsible for the "horrific consequences" of the scandal and cover-ups, he said.
Panelists at the meeting included Thomas Arens of Germany, an organizer of a petition drive in the mid-1990s urging the church to accept married priests and women priests, and lay theologian Lisa Sowle Cahill of Boston College.
Although the group has not called for Boston's Cardinal Bernard Law to resign, participants planned a procession later Saturday to the cathedral to express their unity and solidarity with victims of abuse by priests.
Law has come under criticism for allegedly letting abusive priests keep getting new assignments in parishes that were not warned of the priests' prior conduct.
Since February, the reform group says it has attracted 19,000 supporters, forming chapters in 68 parishes around the nation, half of them in Massachusetts.
Voice is "the fastest-growing Catholic lay organization in the world," James E. Post, a Boston University professor and the group's president, said.
The group called on members to fill out forms rating bishops' compliance with reform policies. Results are to be issued before the bishops' November meeting.
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Toll free number for sex offenders.
by Bleep incall 1 - 800 - try - pray.. if that line is busy call 911.
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Will the JW demand answers, like the Catholics?
by Crystal inreligion.
catholics seek a voice in church's response to scandals.
meeting: lay members gather to demand greater openness from leaders and more decision-making power.. .
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RELIGION
Catholics Seek a Voice in Church's Response to Scandals
Meeting: Lay members gather to demand greater openness from leaders and more decision-making power.Times Headlines
Prisoner of Jihad
Reform Group Calls for Church Changes
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more >By CAROL EISENBERG, NEWSDAY
Carol Bongiorno and her husband, Joseph, had planned a Vermont vacation this month. But the retired couple from Williston Park, N.Y., recently postponed those plans to join thousands of Roman Catholics who are gathering in Boston today to take back their church.
"I'm very disappointed in how the hierarchy has handled this pedophilia scandal," said Carol Bongiorno, 65, a devout Catholic who sent her four children to Catholic grade schools and who has helped lead a parish prayer group for 25 years. "I don't want to leave the church. But now that I know what I know, I have to take responsibility and do something about it."
Though some Catholics have looked to Rome and to the recent bishops meeting in Dallas for a panacea to the scandals bedeviling the church, more than 4,000 of the faithful are headed to a daylong meeting in the Hynes Convention Center in Boston to chart their own path by claiming a voice in the church they love. They are mainstream Catholics for the most part, many of whom like the Bongiornos are pillars of their parishes. And now, as part of a fledgling but fast-growing group, Voice of the Faithful, they are coming together to demand greater openness and accountability from church leaders, as well as a greater decision-making role for the laity.
"This is very significant because this is a moderate group at this point, trying to work with the institutional church, but also demanding accountability and collaboration," said R. Scott Appleby, director of the Cushwa Center for the Study of American Catholicism at the University of Notre Dame. "The people who are participating are very respectable, very mainstream. These are not extremists or radicals or people pushing a special cause. They're concerned about the general lack of accountability of the leadership, and they're calling their church to higher standards."
Established just five months ago in a church basement in a suburb of Boston, Voice of the Faithful has caught on across the country in a climate of disenchantment and distrust among the laity. The group, whose motto is "Keep the faith, change the church," now claims 19,000 members in 40 states and 21 countries. With mostly word-of-mouth promotion, organizers say that they expect a sold-out crowd for all 5,000 spots in the Hynes Convention Center, at $20 per ticket.
Today's meeting will be a critical moment for the group. Though Pope John Paul II spoke about sex abuse in his meeting with the American cardinals in Rome, and the bishops had their say in Dallas, "this is the laity's turn," said Jim Post, newly elected president of Voice of the Faithful and a professor of management at Boston University. "This is the first opportunity for us to speak in a national forum since this great scandal broke six months ago."
For the first time, too, Catholics of divergent backgrounds -- many of whom signed onto Voice of the Faithful via its Internet site (www.votf.org)--will come together to discuss how to build a national framework for the group, as well as developing strategies for change. At the top of that list is expected to be an alternative fund-raising mechanism that would enable Catholics to support Catholic charities while bypassing bishops' appeals.
But the group's challenges are formidable, from maintaining momentum as the media drumbeat diminishes, to unifying a diverse membership, to translating the rhetoric of change into reality in a hierarchical and cleric-driven church.
"It's one thing to say, 'I love the faith, and I'm angry at the church,' "said David O'Brien, director of the Center for Religion, Ethics and Culture at the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Mass., who will speak today. "It's another thing to make a sustained effort over a long period of time to bring about change."
Many of those going to Boston say they are ready to roll up their sleeves and do just that.
"There's a feeling among many cradle Catholics that we're sort of childlike in our faith," said Melissa Gradel of New York City, 36, a mother of two who has served on her parish council at St. Boniface Church and who is one of 10 people from the parish going to the meeting in Boston.
"We let the priests take care of us, and we listen to what they tell us.... I think that part of the message of the mess we're in now is that we have to grow up in our faith and act like adults."
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Prosecuting for aiding and abetting/Bill O'Reilly
by Crystal inhttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,58101,00.html.
notice the interesting comment about the federal gov.
and about the catholics and how the people involved should be prosecuted.. .
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,58101,00.html
Notice the interesting comment about the federal gov. and about the Catholics and how the people involved should be prosecuted.
By Bill O'Reilly
To watch "The Memo" click here.
Hi, I'm Bill O'Reilly. Thanks for watching us tonight.
Once in a while a story comes along that is so painful to report that I wish I didn't have to do it. That is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo.
Little Samantha Runnion is dead, 5-years-old, kidnapped, killed by an evil person who deserves to be locked away, isolated from other inmates, and made to do hard labor for the rest of his life.
It is inconceivable that a person could do this to an innocent child. And the killer's level of evil rivals that of Osama bin Laden.
Each year in the United States, about 100 children are abducted by strangers, according to the Justice Department. Most of the kids are recovered alive. We hope that's the case with Elizabeth Smart, but things look dim.
Approximately 725,000 are reported missing each year, and many of those cases are not solved. That's a bit under what we reported yesterday, and we're sorry for the error.
The no spin truth is that children are being threatened in America, and our federal government must intervene.
Every day in the USA, law enforcement gets more than 2,000 calls about vanishing kids.
My solution is, for Congress to pass the Violence Against Children Act of 2002. And we are looking for some sponsors, congresspeople. Just contact us.
Now, that law would hand over the prosecution of people charged with harming anyone under the age of 16 to the federal authorities. Separate courts would be set up, and the prosecutions would be fast tracked, no delays, no frivolous defense tactics in the courtroom. Upon conviction, the child offender would be sentenced to a separate federal penitentiary located in an isolated region. There the criminal would be placed by himself in a cell and mandated to do hard labor six days a week.
Federal sentencing guidelines would be strict. No parole would be possible.
Under the Violence Against Children Act would be crimes of murder, rape, kidnapping, sexual molestation, and felony abuse of children. And that would include the sale of narcotics to a child.
Now, many Americans distrust the federal government. I understand that. But the feds have the power in our system. State of Florida cannot control the child abuse problem down there. Another terrible crime happened this week. We'll report on it in a few moments.
And poor little Rilya Wilson might not ever be found.
It's clear that Florida and many other states simply cannot protect children at risk.
In any case, American children must be protected from evil, and the feds are best equipped to do that. We applaud the authorities in San Diego that fast-tracked the murder case of 7-year-old Danielle van Dam. But the state judge took a vacation right in the middle of the trial. Could you believe it?
Too often, crimes against children are not prosecuted effectively. The scandal within the Catholic Church is another good example, as local authorities are simply frightened of powerful people like Cardinals Law and Mahony.
As Talking Points has stated, these men should be prosecuted for aiding and abetting the rape of children.
So once again, we are calling for the federal government to pass the Violence Against Children Act. And let's see who steps up.
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Toll free number for sex offenders.
by Bleep incall 1 - 800 - try - pray.. if that line is busy call 911.
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And the ones that helped cover up the crime and the ones that sent them to other cong. without warning parents.And the ones that "choose" to be blind by the facts,they will all be "weeded out"
One thing you guys are saying is true "god will take care of it" Looks like he is takeing care of it by exposing this sick cult. What filthy house cleaning he has to do!!Most of us here want to help him.How about you Bleep...ready to finally roll up your sleaves?