I think the sense of balance always gets screwed when talking about the Government. This is one of the top countries in the world and a hell of alot better than 90% of the rest of them. However, we have our share of problems as well. Rose colored glasses don't make these problems go away. The idea that "you can just leave" is fascist and unamerican. Anyone has a right to complain about our country so long as they are trying to change what they see wrong. The whole, 'you don't agree with the majority so just leave' is so childish because generally speaking those who make that statement are just lazy. They make a gut response without actually thinking and have no real voting experience to back it up. From what I remember, Animal is probably the most active in politics on this board I just vote alot.
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Veterans day is a bunch of crap!!
by LuckyLucy ini have several friends that are veterans and they have to work on monday!!
yet teachers (and we know how useless they are) and students get the day off.i have an idea!!
why don't they just let the veterans off, would that be asking too much??
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How Did You Handle Spiritual Snobs?
by minimus inmy wife was speaking negatively about a sister, an elder's wife, because since i resigned as an elder, she does not give her the time of day.
she said to me that sister-------- is a "spiritual snob.
" i never heard this expression before.
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All spiritual snobs have some kind of skeletons in their closet. Find out what they are then quietly start letting people know. If that fails just lie and make up a story like everyone else. There is nothing more satisfying than seeing a spiritual snob fall back to reality.
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The Sleeping Dragon is Awakening
by Perry inus officials are signalling that a deal has been reached with france and russia to overcome their objections to a new resolution against iraq.
senior diplomats are discussing the latest resolution drafted by the united states at a closed-door meeting of the un security council.
iraq... will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations .
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Too bad Khadafi's infant daughter died, one columnist wrote. Too bad, he said, but that's the game of war. Well, if that's the game, then let's get the hell out of it, because it is poisoning us morally, and not solving any problem. It is only continuing and escalating the endless cycle of retaliation which will one day, if we don't kick our habits, kill us all...
It is very sad that Khadafi's infant daughter was killed but we haven't heard anything from Libya since that bombing. I actually supported Reagan with that action. There is never one way to look at something you just have to use a scale of common sense. The article on North Korea is a prime example of what I'm talking about. There are far larger threats to the security of the U.S. than Iraq. I would support Bush if he decided to go into North Korea for two reasons: 1. North Korea is much more dangerous and unstable. 2. China will no longer back NK so we have a real chance of winning unlike the first go around.
edited to add: Farkel, I deleted my junk mail without really looking at it so if you've sent me an email please send it again. Doh!
Edited by - gsx1138 on 9 November 2002 11:33:30
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First Holidays as a Non-JW
by maxwell inthis will be the first year i go through the holidays as a non-jw.
and on top of that with beliefs that can best be described as agnostic.
basically i think i probably won't do much different.
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Christmas is the best time of year. It's great not being a witness anymore and being able to take my daughter to the light shows. Follow Bendrr's advice, it's all about the kids. The look on their faces is priceless.
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The Sleeping Dragon is Awakening
by Perry inus officials are signalling that a deal has been reached with france and russia to overcome their objections to a new resolution against iraq.
senior diplomats are discussing the latest resolution drafted by the united states at a closed-door meeting of the un security council.
iraq... will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations .
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Your anti-american sentiments are repulsive, inflammatory, and offer nothing in the way of reform. You are acting like a scared little dub who believes that an invisible government will make all the tough decisions for you. Only, you no longer believe in the invisible government so you have nothing but illusion to rely upon.
Ok, I give up. I don't know what the fuck you are reading but how is my being critical of the President and the Government being anti-american. How is questioning authority acting like a scared little dub? You really sound like you're just babbling. Your invisible government bullshit doesn't even coincide with what I've written. I really can't decide whether you're trying hard to appear intelligent or you're just playing games.
Nice try. First your problem is with an "agenda". Now you assert that your problem is with conversion. Don't convert....simple. Problem solved.
Once again you try to twist this into some kind of fake argument. Conversion is the Agenda, get it? I don't have any plans on converting to christianity but I don't want any type of federal pressure put on my daughter to accept their version of God either.
And, no you don't have to agree with anyone to be a better American.
Holy shit! We agree on something. I state that I don't agree with the way the Christian Coalition is pushing their Agenda or how Bush is handling Iraq and you try to tell me how I'm anti-american.
I fully understand the nature of politics in this country which is why I choose to be critical of all politicians. If you want to believe that people disagreeing with the president will change out entire government then perhaps it is you who should read more. As for my apology, it was directed to Farkel.
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Pagan Daybook
by gsx1138 inthought it was a bit interesting.. november 8, 2002. friday - the day of frigga, or venus, the goddess of love and transformation.. mania, gwynn ap nudd.
mania, the roman festival for the spirits of the netherworld, occures today.
today gwynn.
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That is funny Runningman but I can't decide if you're serious or not. You've just included about every lie about Paganism that christians have made up. Except for the Olive Garden part, pagans love Olive Garden.....mmmmmm, Italian Margarita mmmmm.
Edited by - gsx1138 on 8 November 2002 22:19:4
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Pagan Daybook
by gsx1138 inthought it was a bit interesting.. november 8, 2002. friday - the day of frigga, or venus, the goddess of love and transformation.. mania, gwynn ap nudd.
mania, the roman festival for the spirits of the netherworld, occures today.
today gwynn.
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Thought it was a bit interesting.
November 8, 2002
Friday - the day of Frigga, or Venus, the goddess of love and transformation.
Mania, Gwynn ap Nudd
Mania, the Roman festival for the spirits of the netherworld, occures today. Today Gwynn
ap Nudd, the lord of the faerie world, opens the door to our world. The door is said to be on
Glastonbury Tor, in Britain.
2:24 pm
The old Welsh tide of echwydd
The modern tide of undorne
The wind of Africus
The direction of south-west
The virtue of receptivity
Waxing crescent moon.
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The Sleeping Dragon is Awakening
by Perry inus officials are signalling that a deal has been reached with france and russia to overcome their objections to a new resolution against iraq.
senior diplomats are discussing the latest resolution drafted by the united states at a closed-door meeting of the un security council.
iraq... will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations .
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I'm sorry your thought processes need to be so linear Perry.
I don't hate all gays; I hate gays who push their own agenda in politics.
I don't hate all white supremicists; I hate white supremicists who push their own agenda in politics.
I don't hate all black folks; I hate black folks who push their own agenda in politics.
I don't hate all environmentalists; I hate environmentalists who push their own agenda in politics.
I don't hate all women; I hate women who push their own agenda in politics.
Your premise is false, and your conclusion is little more than bigotry.
Gays aren't trying to convert me to gay or trying push their agenda to suppress the rights of others. The Christian Coalition is trying to convert me and get laws passed that supress the rights of others. If you don't believe this then you are living in a hole.
I don't hate white supremicists because they are a good source of comedy as their ignorance is astounding.
I don't hate black folks because they have already been suppressed and are digging their way back up just to be equal.
Environmentalists care about themselves which is very American so how can I hate them for being american?
Woman are forced into a patriarchal society, the christian coalition wants to force them into a patriarchal religion.
You can't take one point of view and apply it to everything. This is the very problem that the christian right in this country have, they try to push everyone into their "world view".
Reagan can take credit for the huge surge in cocaine profits in this country and the large amount of money his "war on drugs" campaign was making.
And you have proof that ole' Ronnie and Nancy made huge profits on the Just Say No program? I didn't think so.
I think you missed the point. The short term "hardships" are what created the proliferation of the crack culture in the first place. Reagan doesn't have to receive money directly, I was talking about the enforcement agencies such as the DEA, ATF, and whatever Federal Agencies profitted from our war on drugs.
Yes, that is the main issue here isn't it? I really don't think that you will care much about your money when you see a bright flash and realize you have about 3 seconds before you are vaporized.
Typical fear tactic with little of any real value other than to get people to make knee jerk reactions.
Somewhere along the line most of you missed the point entirely. I'm speaking of the Republicans being no better than the Democrats. Invading Iraq is an entire seperate issue yet you guys seem to think that only Republicans want to invade. While you may concede hypocrisy on both sides how willing are some of you to dig into Bush's precidency the way you have Clinton's?
For a small example of Bush's own dirt.
Asked later if his [Harken] stock sale had been related to the company's impending setback, {Board member] Bush replied, "I absolutely had no idea and would not have sold it had I known." In fact, SEC records show that Harken's president had warned board members two months before Bush's sell-off that the company had liquidity problems that would "drastically affect" operations. --SF Chronicle, 07.05.02
Your semi-Slippery Slope arguments, Perry add nothing. I will admit that I have become a little too personal in my postings on this subject so to those I childishly called names I apologize.
Edited to add: I agree with you Crazy that Clinton was a pussy when it came to Somalia. Carpet bombing innocent people is not the answer either. The worste thing you can do is let a politian run a war.
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The Sleeping Dragon is Awakening
by Perry inus officials are signalling that a deal has been reached with france and russia to overcome their objections to a new resolution against iraq.
senior diplomats are discussing the latest resolution drafted by the united states at a closed-door meeting of the un security council.
iraq... will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations .
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I don't hate all christians; I hate christians who push their own agenda in politics. It is popular today to brush over xianity with the fluffy happy brush. However, the eventuality of that faith is the conversion of everyone to their beliefs. Common morality does not come from religion it comes from people. That is a mistake that is often made. Religion does not equal morality. If all religion in the world suddenly dissappeared there would still be "moral" people, perhaps moreso. I've also seen plenty of hate from christians because I don't believe in their Jesus myth.
As for the Republicans, you have seen fit to present all of their good things and just skip over the bad things. What is it with you people? Someone says something bad about a "political" party and all the sudden you start throwing tantrums like school children. Russia was held in check for years through MAD while their economy slowly crumbled. I really think they used the "Star Wars" program as an excuse to do what they knew had to be done (otherwise suffer another revolution). Personally, I would have prefered Pattons idea of invading Russia right after WW2 but his genius wasn't acknowledged until later. As for the 80's, if you were already poor then you just got more poor. Talk about all the money floating around to the auto plant and steel workers who suffered huge layoffs. Talk about all that money to those in the poor areas of the major cities who didn't get any kind of "trickle down". Reagan can take credit for the huge surge in cocaine profits in this country and the large amount of money his "war on drugs" campaign was making.
All I'm trying to point out is that Clinton is no worse than some of the other presidents we've had (except Carter, who was horrible) in the past and present. He did some good stuff and he did some bad stuff. Whoopty freakin do. The difference is that Reagans troubles weren't publically known until after he was out of office. Does that make Reagan a bad president? No, if I wasn't a JW at the time I would have voted for him as well and probably Bush Sr. also. However, I did not vote for, as did America, Bush Jr. All the way back to Iraq and Operation finish daddies war. Something needs to be done about Iraq but the rest of the world can see us for the hypocrites we are even if we can't. We want to have a war on terrorism but we refuse to do anything to the largest terrorist producer in the world, Saudi Arabia. Why? Because our country, and moreso president and vice president, is more interested in oil than our own safety. Yet we want to invade a country that has remained relatively silent for 10 years. Our economy is in the shitter and getting flushed furthur down as I type. So do we need to invade Iraq? Yes, but the economy and Saudi Arabia need to be addressed first. The tie to Saddam and terrorism is very weak when compared to other countries. I hear the same rhetoric being tossed around with nothing new added in, 'he's building weapons of mass destruction', 'he gassed his own people', 'he wants to destroy the U.S.' Saddam was building weapons of mass destruction and gassed his own people before we invaded the first time but it didn't seem to matter to us then. I'd love to carry on but I have to go to school.
By the way, hypocrisy is a part of life. It is a matter of degree. Did you listen to some screwball ultral liberal spout how the answer to eliminating hypocrisy is to eliminate a sense of right and wrong?
Edited to include the above quote: Screwball ultra liberal huh? Where are your screwball ultra conservative quotes? There are plenty on both sides. This quote sounds like it is from the Bible since isn't it written that God didn't want us to know right from wrong/good and bad. The liberal (I'm sorry ULTRA liberal) that made this quote is obviously just as dumb as the story it comes from. I think the way to eliminate hypocrisy is to stop acting holier than thou and admit your faults.Edited by - gsx1138 on 8 November 2002 11:3:16
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The Sleeping Dragon is Awakening
by Perry inus officials are signalling that a deal has been reached with france and russia to overcome their objections to a new resolution against iraq.
senior diplomats are discussing the latest resolution drafted by the united states at a closed-door meeting of the un security council.
iraq... will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations .
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I usually enjoy your posts Farkel but you sound like a dumbass little Republican robot. While I don't contend to know it all like you about modern history I've been interested in politics even when I was a witness.
Get a clue. You must ALSO be very young or went to some liberal bullshit college.
If being 33 is young then thanks. It is also nice of you to mention the fall of the Soviet Union and the Berlin wall but forget to mention that we supported drug cartels who were willing to fight for us in Central America. Reagan was not the only one to contribute to the fall of the USSR but he sure loved to take credit for it. The falling of the Berlin wall was an eventuality of the fall of the USSR so there is nothing special about Bush Senior. Reagan is the one who offered weapons/money to the militant muslims in Iran. You forget that we were willing to train Osama and friends (Reagan and partly Bush years) then leave them to their own devices after the SU pulled out of Afghanistan. How about all of the rebel groups we funded in Central America that were commiting genocide. While I'm at it, how about all the ass kissing Bush and Company are doing with Saudi Arabia. Apparently you missed the end of my post because I despise the Democrats just as much. If you weren't so blinded by your own prejudices you would be able to see beyond right wing propoganda. Don't confuse my minor defense of Clinton as some sort of endorsement of his actions as president (I voted for Dole 2nd time around). I'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the Republican party. Personally, I would prefer to have John McKain in the white house right now instead of the christian coalition corporate ass kisser Bush. You seem too ready to jump down anyones throat who doesn't share your "world view".