Posts by Robert7

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Did You Ever Think That The Demons Were After You?

by minimus in

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i know so many jws that love to think satan and his demons are after them.

if they were being "persecuted", it was because of the devil and his demons.

if they got an ache or pain, it was because satan was trying to "discourage" them.......did you think the demons were trying to get you, too?

Robert7

I always felt that most (if not all) people who felt anything positive from God/Holy Spirit/Jesus/etc was all psychological and not actually truly spiritual. The reason I did is that people in ALL religions have this feeling.

So if JWs were the truth, then why are people in all religions having these religious moments? Either it's psychological, or as the WTS would say, it's demons (never believed that)

If JWs were not the truth, then either all religions are right, or they're all BS and it's all psychological.

Same goes on the negative side with Satan and his demons. The ones who seem to have issues with them seem to be convinced they exist and therefore it's a self-fulfilling prophesy. Why don't Atheists ever get attacked by demons?

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Did You Hate Going In Service???

by minimus in

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i really thought it was a stupid waste of time!

especially weekend mornings and holidays..

Robert7

Only went once a month because my wife made me go, and to have a token number of hours. I resented losing my one day a week to sleep in and have a day off.

I also saw how fruitless the effort was, and how inefficient it all was. Would spend over 3 hours from when we started getting ready in the morning till we got home, and talk only to a handful number of people at most.

Many times we would work with another couple with kids so we could do return visits, and take a very long break, and still count 2 hours.

What a waste of time.

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36 rules/teachings that "go beyond what is written"....in bible

by oompa in

witness rules and teachings that go "beyond what is written" in the bible............(feel free to add more here or on other thread).

1. hatred of men's facial hair and sideburns ...................................(privileges withheld if you have too much or wrong style) also length of men's hair.

2. clothing requirements................. ties/jackets/suits mandatory for ministry/talks/privileges....and sisters can freeze there ass of rather than wear a hilliary clinton pantsuit or they can not be on the school.

Robert7

You need to add shunning to the list...

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36 rules/teachings that "go beyond what is written"....in bible

by oompa in

witness rules and teachings that go "beyond what is written" in the bible............(feel free to add more here or on other thread).

1. hatred of men's facial hair and sideburns ...................................(privileges withheld if you have too much or wrong style) also length of men's hair.

2. clothing requirements................. ties/jackets/suits mandatory for ministry/talks/privileges....and sisters can freeze there ass of rather than wear a hilliary clinton pantsuit or they can not be on the school.

Robert7

I see you have no comments for #7, LOL!

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Greatest Lesson You Have Learned from Your WT Experience?

by cameo-d in

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what will prevent you from being deceived again and making the same mistake?.

what is your criteria now for weighing truth vs "enlightened-sounding" fiction?.

Robert7

Question everything

Don't trust anyone in power

Don't take anything at face value

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Any suggestions on how I can help get my hubby out

by wifeofjw in

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i have not posted very often but, i do read the posts all the time.

my hubby was not a jw when we got married.

it has been 9 years of the borg.

Robert7

One important thing to be well educated on is how to respond to the JW 'catch-alls'. Things like "Where else will you go?", "The Organization is made up of imperfect men", and "Wait on Jehovah". I have found that it's the catch-alls like this that keep many in the faith. They are so mind controlled to just default to these thoughts, and makes leaving mentally that much harder.

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Any suggestions on how I can help get my hubby out

by wifeofjw in

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i have not posted very often but, i do read the posts all the time.

my hubby was not a jw when we got married.

it has been 9 years of the borg.

Robert7

What got my wife's mind going was her doing research on the history of the Society on Wikipedia. This is a 'non-apostate' site that should make JWs feel comfortable reading. Just read the history of Russel and Rutherford, and you will see how God has no hand in this Organization.

This history brings out a lot of interesting facts, like how before 1914 Russel preached that the world was going to end in 1914.

This may get his mind going... You have an uphill battle... good luck...

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Watchtower Speech Taboos - Censorship by Ommision

by unclebruce in

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bahbuttons said: another time i accidently told a kid god bless you in the kh and you'd think i just said every swear word known to man with the looks i got from everyone....another embaressing moment that was.............fond memories eh,lolquoteendquoteeend.

th is an interesting point.

apostates always bang on about watchtower double speak and the way the society twists words, investing them with mind-control triggers but rarely do we hear about censorship by omission, the words jw's can't speak.

Robert7

Geez

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How many ATHEISTS don't believe that they came from FISH?

by hooberus in

how many atheists are there who don't believe that they came from fish ?.

the outspoken ones that i have come into contact with always seem to (when pressed anyway) advocate such a thing.

many of them surely even put something like it on their car, such as:.

Robert7

Being Atheist or Agnostic does not mean you believe in evolution. I, for one, fall under that category. I don't believe in the God of the bible, or the bible itself, but I have a hard time with many concepts of evolution. I do believe that natural selection does create stronger species and filters out the weak, but whether that actually creates new species, I'm not sold.

However, not believing in evolution, or any other non-biblical theory, does not in any way prove that God created life.

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What steps did you take to stop your association with the congregation?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

when i finally knew that the wts didn't have the truth,i decided to take steps to slow down and become an inactive member.

( i still have my whole family in.......so..... i prefer to remain inactive).

i took these small steps :.

Robert7

I did the unplanned fade like many others, but what I find ironic is how the brothers 'supported' the fade.

So if I'm 'down' (fading away) you would think they would try to encourage me by getting me involved, making me feel like part of the congregation again... it was the opposite... If I don't go out in service enough, I can't say prayer. I can't handle the mics, or any other 'priviledges'. The one thing I got to do that I enjoyed was reading at book study, and THAT was taken away due to poor service numbers.

It was as if the brothers were encouraging my fade by further removing the things that would keep me in... Glad they helped!