SonoftheTrinity
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The Logisitcs of Destroying Organized Religion
by truthseeker inthey define babylon the great as the "world empire of false religion", and that jehovah god will use the united nations to turn on her.. .
the "keep on the watch" brochure says the following, regarding the destruction of babylon the great:.
"for our day, the bible forecasts that political governments, like a wild beast, will turn on "the harlot" and strip her naked, exposing her real .
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The Jehovah's Witness organization is prophesying against itself. Religion is a racket and a snare. -
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The weird part of the gendercide is that men are emigrating from China, not just for the money or the freedom, but to find a wife. Expect more Black and Latino Chinese people in the world. Its going to be interesting how Chinese society reacts to miscegenation out of necessity. -
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American Military Casualties in Africa
by fulltimestudent infrom one perspective this story is wildly amusing, if not for the fact that the three women involved were quite possibly desperately poor and only involved because they had the guts to stand up against community sanctions in an effort to feed their kids (that's a romanticised viewpoint, but it could be true).. the story is simple enough, three tough hell-raising american soldiers, involved in what some call "black ops," (i.e.
its all unofficial and never happened) have a night out, drinking enough whisky to float an air-craft carrier, and along with three 'bitches' that they shared bodies with during the night, come to an unfortunate end:.
sex, drugs, and dead soldiers .
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Good Grief, they should just legalize and regulate prostitution with the military and have a special pleasure corps like the French Foreign Legion has. The religious right and the radical feminists would oppose it, but its better than this embarrassing bs. This is as bad as that secret service guy who thought he was Archer who didnt want to pay that Colombian prostitute.
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The Rowland v. Christian case was used to arrive at the Conti decision... But should there have been a legal duty to prevent harm?
by defender of truth inthe factors of the rowland v. christian case were applied to arrive at the latest conti ruling, according to an article entitled 'in childhood sexual abuse case, california appellate court finds church has no duty to prevent its members from harming each other':"the sole basis for the punitive damages claim was the contention that the defendants failed to fulfill their duty of warning members of the congregation that the witness had molested a child.on appeal, the reviewing court found that the alleged duty to warn could not be justified on the basis of a special relationship because there is no authority for any such broad duty on the part of a church to prevent its members from harming each other.
the court also applied the factors of rowland v. christian to determine whether a duty existed..."www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/in-childhood-sexual-abuse-case-californ-19456/......now take a look at this:" california civil code section 1714 imposes a general duty of ordinary care, which by default requires all persons to take reasonable measures to prevent harm to others.
in the 1968 case of rowland v. christian, the court held that judicial exceptions to this general duty of care should only be created if clearly justified based on the following public-policy factors:*.the foreseeability of harm to the injured party;*.the degree of certainty he or she suffered injury;*.the closeness of the connection between the defendants conduct and the injury suffered;*.the moral blame attached to the defendants conduct;*.the policy of preventing future harm;*.the extent of the burden to the defendant and the consequences to the community of imposing a duty of care with resulting liability for breach;*.and the availability, cost, and prevalence of insurance for the risk involved.
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JWs through the eyes of an eight year old
by maksutov inmy wife is a jw, and is teaching our eight year old daughter jw beliefs.
i am trying to teach her about evolution and critical thinking skills.
here is a conversation we had today (as best i can remember it):daughter: "why do bad things happen?
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Put the "Thou shalt not commit logical fallacies" poster up in somewhere in the house and tell her for every logical fallacy she finds in the Awake magazine you'll pay her a quarter (or a dollar if you got it like that.) That way she will pay attention which will initially please your wife until she finds out what is going on. Then you can tell her that Awake just needs better writers who don't stoop to logical fallacies. Kind of like how I told my wife I want my kids to grow up to be JW lawyers so they can pimp the organization instead of the organization pimping them. I told my eldest you have to think for yourself whenever his mother isn't around. And for the most part he does, which is why he is so quiet at family bible study. I also told him to pay very close attention so that he can see the sophistry and logical fallacies, so that should he choose to not be a Jehovah's Witness he can say exactly why to his mother. -
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Compliment or criticism - what affects you most?
by EdenOne ina bit of introspection on this one ... just read on someone's post that a compliment makes him "float" for hours, and it got me thinking; within the spectrum of comments that people make about me, from compliment to criticism, which is the type that most affects me?.
after my experience as a jehovah's witness, i find that i've become suspicious of compliments and over-sensitive to criticism.
because a common technique of elders was to compliment someone before going down to business, that is, giving hard counseling or discipline.
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I learned in marriage class to always sneak a criticism in between two compliments, if you have to be critical. My teacher was especially insistent on that. My wife hates it when I do that.From what you are saying Eden I must remind her of the one the elders at her DF. She usually responds with unimaginative insults typical of a second language speaker who is forbidden to use curse words (though she murmurs the nastiest curse words her language has to offer) and also forbidden to attend college. She bluntly attacks my character, so that is when I start mixing condescending collegiate psychobabble with ghetto profanity in a furious masculine bellow. Think Dr. Phil's lovechild as a guest on Jerry Springer. -
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Thank you for redirecting me to the right organization!
by economy inthank you, jw.net and cofty, for redirecting me to the right organization!.
when i posted why did god permit scriptures to be corrupted?
then i thought, if there is an organization that believes all scriptures are corrupted (which obviously makes it enemy of all religions), that organization is not ordinary, but gutsy, lionhearted, and worthy of close examination!
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Since this is the shill for a cult thread now. I miss my old cult. It was a LOT more fun than the Jehovah's Witnesses or the Brahma Kumaris. My cult had culture! Monthly all night dancing with herb, drink, barbecue, dancing, and live djs, rappers and musicians all praising Jah. Our Prophet would drain the funds when he rarely came to town but only because the party he would throw was even BIGGER. We did have our promised land in Ethiopia with an excellent accredited school and clinic that really does the work of God, that the naked be fed, the sick nourished the aged protected and the infants cared for. The only real requirement was to be there, and be willing to do your part which would have meant leaving my wife for the Big City. You could belong to another church, disagree with the Prophet, run for political office, get a Ph. D., basically do whatever you wanted except maybe being gay or a satanist. Well, not being brainwashed, I chose my marriage over my cult and I am now a reluctant accessory to my wife doing work for her cult. And thanks to summer soldiers like me, my cult is disbanded in my state and is on the other side of the country. Maybe it was a cult, but it was my cult, the only place where I fit in. Everyone in that cult is still friends on Facebook, we share old photos of back in the day. I am just like one of those boomer hippies who talked about the 60s commune except I am a generation X Rasta and I talk about the 90s. The best part of it was that belonging to the 144,000 cost only 20c a week, with you free to live your personal life as you pleased. Now how can the JWs, or even mainline churches that teach tithing compete with that?
I did get baptised into the Ethiopian Orthodox Church to fill the void in my soul from leaving the cult, but after I got married to a Jehovah's Witness, there wasn't really a place for me. The Orthodox women love to flirtingly remind me that until we get joined in Holy Matrimony she is a only concubine in the eyes of the Church. Concubinage being perfectly respectable though short of holiness. I tried doing vegan lent according to orthodox teaching but without dairy the oxalates from all the vegetable sources nearly gave me a kidney episode. So I was too ashamed to even come to Easter Vigil.
The Twelve Tribes of Israel (Historic Mansion of Rastafari founded by Vernon Carrington) is labelled as a cult. Because we allegedly use religion as an excuse to party without going through the permit process most nightclubs need, because a third world backwater is our promised land and because we have the same name as the (Spriggs) Twelve Tribes, and our Black and Latino membership also get us confused with the Black Hebrews, thus guilt by having the same name. But I love and miss my old cult, which is why tearing down my wife's religion, and teaching my stepkids that it is better to be an atheist than to be a tool of the Governing Body (as it is better to worship no God than to worship idols) actually hurts me more than it does my family. Being a part of that cult was the best days of my life.
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Golden Rule: Pure Garbage?
by willmarite inon another thread a poster made the comment that the golden rule was garbage.
she said it was arrogant and made assumptions.. i didn't want to derail that thread so i started another wondering if this is a common thought about this belief on this forum.
i guess i naively thought the value of doing to others as you want them to do to you was generally accepted as positive.. i understand people have different opinions of jesus as a person but i don't want to get into that here.
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There is also the Silver Rule, don't do to others what you wouldn't want done to you. I have found that is a much easier and effective Rule to follow. It requires less effort and doesn't presuppose what people want. -
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JW unwittingly shares article PROMOTING pot smoking
by cappytan inso, my wife is surfing facebook today.
comes across a post by a jw "friend" of ours titled "8 scientific reasons you should never smoke weed.".
it turns out to be an article actually showing evidence to the contrary!
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I think a lot more JWs smoke pot than would admit it. I know because I know of some who grow it. There are so many skunks spraying everywhere I live that giving people a talk based on smelling like marijuana simply isn't done, whether you are a cop or a jw elder. -
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Discrediting an individual so as to avoid giving due thought and attention to the argument
by jambon1 init seems that this has been a tactic that the jw's have used for many years.. i haven't contributed to this board in a wee while but upon my return a month or so ago, i was astounded to read about the article where the society described opposers as 'mentally diseased'.. it's a very basic strategy and one that works.. i myself experienced this with my wife during my more vocal periods of opposition to the society.
for a good while i had a problem with drink.
not a violent problem or anything, just that i drank more.
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I'm bringing this back up and I absolutely have to put the "Thou shalt not commit logical fallacies" poster framed up in my JW dominated house' living room.