at 1 corinthians 14:33-35 paul writes;.
"in all the congregations let the women keep silent, for it is not permitted for them to speak, but let them be in subjection, even as the law says.".
if in fulfilment of joel's prophecy god's spirit was poured out on both men and women at pentecost 33 ce giving them the ability to prophesy, why did paul say that women should keep silent?.
I always loved this rule and 1Tim 2 (well in theory of exclusion of FS). This is why the Mormon only use men when doing public preaching. Can you imagine how many WT and Awakes would be sitting in the KH collecting dust! Membership would come to a halt, after all most new male studies are initiated by women and then passed to a Brother.
I think I will call WTBS and suggest it as a KM piece!
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i find it curious, but take no particular view at this point.
i can only imagine that such a thing [let's say a christian chapel] for christians would not ever come under consideration.
Funkyderek,
This actually is becoming an issue of state and church. In California the Muslims want extra time during school and a special area for Muslim children to pray. Now it is footbathing areas in an airport. Look we all get to choose whether to participate in religious ideolology but we do not get to demand that public state or federally regulated areas cater to specific religions. If they want to pray, they plan on being in an appropriate place during pray hour. If parents want their children keeping this tradition then take them out of school and return them after. Or they can use the "moment of silence" like other religious kids do to say private silent prays at the start of morning classes. We are a secular society. And yes this is like the Witnesses saying that the school needs to designate a room and teacher to care for Witness kids during times that the school is celebrating a holiday, birthday, pep ralley or saying the pledge. Maybe those following Kosher diets should insist that all Public School have Kosher Kitchens. Wait the Arian Brotherhood could demand separate bathrooms/anywhere designated by race (they consider themselves a religious order. Maybe we can re-enact all the "blue laws" in every state and force business owners to be closed on Sunday. The point is that with religion it is either everyone or no one.
By the way most airports do have designated smoking areas (since a majority of cities now have smoking bans) but they are NOT dictates of a religion.
lawyers acting for a durban hospital and paediatric surgeon made a mercy dash to the high court this week, securing a court order allowing them to give a critically ill two-year-old girl a blood transfusion in the face of staunch opposition from her jehovah's witness parents.. .
in granting the order giving parklands hospital and surgeon abdool shaik authority to do whatever is necessary over the next seven days to save the little girl's life, durban high court judge herbert msimang said the court, as the upper guardian of all children, had to act in their best interests.. .
the parents, thabani and simangele mabanga, who were supported in court by members of their church, had argued earlier that god was the ultimate guardian, and that according to their religious beliefs they would not give consent for a transfusion.. .
I am glad this child will have a chance to live. I still attend meetings but have removed all NO-Blood things from our medical records. Daisy Boo anymore word from your Sister about possible lawsuit?
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i find it curious, but take no particular view at this point.
i can only imagine that such a thing [let's say a christian chapel] for christians would not ever come under consideration.
My idea is this. BAN them from using the sinks in such a manner (citing health and safety, standing water can cause serious falls and lawsuits). If they wanna clean their feet let them use wet wipes or let them be at home/mosque for prayer time. Really that is like saying it's 7:30 /Thursday lets get everyone seated and start the Bookstudy right here in the Airport. Maybe a Bishop can come through on holy days and begin waving incense, maybe passing out wafers and little plastic cups of grape juice, while blessing all. Buddhist could bring and set up alters. Satanist could make sacrifices. Where does it end. How offended will Muslims be then? Its an Airport not a place of worship. I think this is one of those thing that if you give an inch, next will be a mile. We have separation of state and church for this reason.
1 thessalonians 5:3 says this - "whenever it is that they are saying: peace and security!
then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape.
" nwt... jehovahs witnesses believe this is refering to our time with a final fulfillment imminent which of course triggers total destruction for nearly everyone and everything.
I always thought this scripture referred to the start of Armageddon. That the 8th head was going to go about declaring peace and security (through miltary) then Whamo...POOF....Millenial Reign.
world wide church of god founded by hurbert armstrong 1933 till he died 1986 with hundreds of thousands of followers, airplanes, thier own t.v show, their own colleges, and many properties.
it published "the plain truth" magazine a rival to "awake.".
joseph tkach took over in 1986 like rutherford he had some plans of his own!
Blood = 1985 you joined an organization. Picture now 2085 the blood issue has faded from debate and publication for many decades. When they reverse the doctrine in the QFR, no one will notice, as most never read it. Much like all the quackery of Clayton Woodworth, Gene Smalley will become an obscure JW factoid.
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i haven't been on the board for a while and i haven't been following the jws closely for a while either.
but it doesn't mean i'm not curious.
i've just been very busy.
Muted mumblings can be heard through the JW vine........"the door on the ark is closing"......"all the nations have been preach to".....Hopefully the WTBS won't decide to scream it from the roof tops! Besides all really intellectual JWs are eyeing 2034/35.
LOL ......Y
i've been away for a few days because my sister was in town visiting.
during her visit she mentioned a few things that have me scratching my head.. 1. her husband applied for a job and is really hoping to get it... it's a web design based job (i believe) but it's for the sherrif's department?.
2. she put off making definite plans to come in town until the last minute to find out if she was scheduled for jury duty?
JW's are required to show up for jury duty. Usually though they are dismissed because of being Witnesses or if a death penalty case is gearing up they make clear their unwillingness to consider the death penalty. POOF they are outta there!
if meterite craters were created before noah flood,wouldn't they have been washed away in noah's flood?
NO, the edges might have changed but they would still be there. Think about those "pyramid" structures off Okinawa. The sea level supposedly began to rise after the last ice age and yet go scuba diving and you can find them. MMMM pyramids in Egypt, in South America, in Bosnia, Japan............wonder what they all were used for and when were they built.
it has always puzzled me why abel, a herder of sheep, would want to kill his own animals to offer them up to god.. prior to the flood, it would be fair to say that no one ate meat.
maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but assuming that meat.
was not eaten, why would abel's offering be better than cain's offering?.
Ok here are my 2 pennies worth
I checked a couple different Bible translations and nowhere does it mention that Abels firstlings were BURNT, just that there were "fattened" giving the impression that they were at their peakness. I assume you did what I did when reading this question. I pictured the My Book of Bible Stories illustration
Cain and Abel and their offerings:
Gen 4 spans an unnumbered amount of time from birth of boys to Noah. I think that God had already communicated with Adam about their relationship (the big screw-up and Satan) and that these offerings were mostlikely as attonements which we later see in the likes of Leviticus. Remember now, no where in the Bible does it say Adam will not receive forgiveness (at least I haven't seen it). It holds Adam accountable ultimately more so then Eve (1Tim 2:14) but not a permanent condemnation of either. Sure the WTBS uses the verse about "manslayer" but their past/ current medical jibberish is equal to manslaying too. Anywho.....back to the subject at hand. So since we see that there is an offering, Cain does some produce and Abel some firstlings. (If Adam and company didn't eat meat then certainly they would have to have clothing and hides are faster then looms) We have to assume that a commandment to do so was ordered as God is apparently still friendly with the humans. It goes on to say that God and Cain chat about his favoring Abels offering, God tells Cain if you turn to doing good, there to will be exaltation. So it seems that Cain is having some issues of attitude that are not elaborated.
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