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  "Are you old in this system?" Feb 2015 broadcast video. Must watch

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  if you have not already watched the feb 2015 broadcast, go to approx.

  it has an elderly sister talking about being old in this world...a long time pioneer who probably thought the end would have come years ago...as the society told her many times.. now she is told to be on a mission to get young ones to also pioneer, and watch for the not so subtle condemntion of higher education!.

  sickening stuff........ they missed the obvious elephant in the room.... a life wasted on nothing...now she has no money, and lived waiting for a fairy tale!

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  flipper

  I watched the brief part at 58 minutes you talked of. Made me so sad for this old JW lady. Wanted to throw up. This poor thing has wasted her entire life on a pipedream and a false manipulation by the WT Society. I wonder how many other old JW's are feeling like her ? Like an old unused banjo stuck in a corner with cobwebs growing on it. Very sad. She will die with no realization of this false " paradise ". As will 100 % of all Jehovah's Witnesses. WT leaders are bastards. Who come across with mock humility
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  Quick introduction

  by OzGirl in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  only have a few minutes to spare so thought i would throw this together.. been in for about 30 years.

  questions and doubts gathered over that time.

  i have a keen interest in the legal and financial matters of the watchtower.. came across this site about 5 years ago.

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  flipper

  OZGIRL- Welcome to the board. Nice to have you here. Lots of us are busy as well with work, etc. Drop in whenever you feel like it. Lots of cool people here who are very supportive. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Elephants and JWs never forget

  by Joziqueen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my mother in law lost her husband to cancer recently.

  so feeling lonely and been pushed by her sister (active witness) after not stepping in a hall for 20 years she went to a sunday meeting.

  one meeting where she had the surreal experience of having to watch a "special talk" on jw tv.

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  flipper

  Oh my ! This poor woman is going to go back and suffer MORE abuse from the elders ? When she already suffered horrific abuse at the hands of her abusive elder first husband ? Please reason with your mother in law and save her from making a big mistake. This organization will throw her under the bus. And make her feel guilty about the evils that she suffered years ago. I wish her the best. Hope she doesn't go back to any more meetings
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  77-year-old Jehovah's Witness murdered by her bible study.(Japan)

  by jwstudy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  19-year-old girl arrested for killing 77-year-old woman in nagoya.

  crime jan. 28, 2015 - 03:00pm jst .

  nagoya .

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  flipper

  Very sad situation. There are so many bat $hit crazy people out there who are psychopathic waiting to knock somebody off - anybody. The poor older lady was in the wrong place at the wrong time. A few made the point of JW's being WAY too trusting ; and that's TRUE when they are out in their door to door ministry proselytizing . It's like the WT cult makes them a " deer in the headlights " with only ONE intention- getting the WT message out to people at ALL costs and their minds go into neutral not thinking about dangers or being alert to it.

    I remember years ago when my mom was in her 50's in the early 1980's she called on this little man named " Tiny " and he invited her in because he had agreed to a " Bible Study ". Wasn't very smart on my mom's part but long story short " Tiny " got a fixation or attraction towards my mom and tried to kiss her and give her hugs before she left wanting MORE than just a " Bible Study ". So my mom saw the need to drop the return visit and hand it over to a male JW. Of course- " Tiny " lost interest at that point.

    Point I'm making is we NEVER know what the agenda of people are or what is going on in their personal life - and it's irresponsible of the WT Society to put people in harms way without supporting them. Especially minor children or older people going door to door  as you never know who is on the other side of that door
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  "Religion gives us the Why"

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard this nonsense said by many believers, especially when science conflicts with their belief, they say:.

  " well, science may tell us how we got here, religion tells us why we are here".

  does religion tell us that ?

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  Religion gives people excuses and alibis so that they don't have to face reality. It's for people who are scared of making their own future so they get a pretend insurance policy and organize it into a " religion " so that they don't have to think for themselves and have either a pastor, elders, or a group of people in a congregation think for and with them and tell them what to believe. Or rely on a book written by men claiming to be inspired by God. It boxes in their ability to think critically or see life with an open mind
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  Does anyone have any information on lawsuits in regards to JW's victimizing the mentally ill?

  by lme123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i am a former jw, 14 years removed.

  i moved out of state away from my jw family for 10 years, and currently moved back to my home town 2 years ago.

  it was a great healing process for me, especially being away from all of the confusing and controversial influences i was raised with.

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  IME123- Welcome to the board. Nice to have you here. I'm so sorry that your friend that you mention was treated so unjustly from the elders and the WT mindset in the elders. I have personally known people who were JW's who committed suicide after having been treated unjustly from elders. Elders are NOT trained to deal with mental illness. But they act as an authority under the guidance of the WT Society. It's extremely dangerous and the WT Society has a lot of bloodguilt on it's hands due to allowing these injustices to happen.

    As regards HOW you can gather a lot of unjustly treated people together who have suffered abuse from the WT Society due to mental illness to go for a class action lawsuit against the WT Society- your guess is as good as mine. I would suggest talking to an attorney for a consultation to see what options are available. You'll need all the support you can in taking on the WT Society. Victims of WT child abuse are finding that out for sure. You'll need documentation, good attorneys who know the law. WT Society doesn't like to admit fault for any injustices they commit. I applaud you for taking the time and effort to fight on behalf of these victims. You have my support. I wish you the best and good luck indeed in pursuing it
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  "Why are we supposed to be happy when people are killed?" From a 10 year old

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was really overjoyed to hear a 10 year old in the hall say this the other day.

  she was sitting behind us and whispered to her mum during the meeting:.

  "so mummy, why are we supposed to be happy when jehovah kills people, including my friends at school?

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  flipper

  What a decent child with a pure good heart. Smart question. Why should we be happy if Jehovah kills people ? Hopefully this child will exit this criminal cult Jehovah's Witnesses
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  Woke up this morning to the realization that the future is now

  by campaign of hate in

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  2. friends

  as the title of the thread says, i woke up this morning realizing more than ever that we should, each and every one of us, live for today and what we can accomplish today, rather than constantly looking toward the future.. i'm not implying we shouldn't make plans, plans are healthy and advisable, especially if you have healthy commitments.. but i realized the reason why nothing in my life ever seems to get done, is because i put things off, and look ahead 10 years down the line, then a few days later realize how much work needs to be put into that said task, then i don't do anything.

  and so the cycle seems to repeat itself.. what i think i'm trying to say is that worthwhile endeavors that have a reward at the end, but take many years to get there, need to be challenged one day at a time.

  i now understand that to get to where we want to be 10 years down the line, we need to focus on today and the hard work that needs to be out into a task one day at a time.

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  flipper

  This is a great thread Campaign that deserves to have more thoughts given to it. Live in the here and now my friends
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  Stop WT society information control by giving access to REAL information

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  of course we all know that many ex-jw's are doing this online constantly and that's a good thing.

  whether by you tubes, websites, blogs, etc.

  the worldwide community of ex-jw's has been and will continue to be proactive in putting out real information to counteract and offset the lies and fantasy propaganda put out by the wt society.

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  flipper

  Going to work all night tonight so wanted to invite anyone to share some thoughts about how to keep giving access to real information to JW's and others concerning the WT Society injustices. Let's put our minds together
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  Do Jehovah Witnesses give out mis-information deliberately?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you think it is possible that the g.b.is deliberately giving out mis-information to confuse either apostates or media that might be investigating them for one reason or another ?

  speak out of both corners of their mouth .

  and the reason they do so ?

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  Yes, I agree that WT leaders use misinformation to deceive intentionally. Just look at how they deceive regarding their child abuse policies to the public. Especially to the media They try to appear that they are responsible regarding child abuse. But nothing is further from the truth. A person could find numerous other areas where the WT Society intentionally deceives and it's all to meet their agenda of being a financially wealthy organization. Bottom line