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  Isn't it amazing ... how many Christians chose to ignore the OT...?

  by needproof in

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  i read this funny article about the god of the old testament, and i thought how amazing it was that some christians seemingly chose to ignore this brutal god of war, yahweh, as though in the nt, he suddenly had a change of heart.

  the deity is clearly a maniac with a bloodthirst.

  here is the article: .

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  needproof

  Mikeus,

  I have noted your thoughtful reply and will reply soon. Please accept my apologies, I may have over-reacted to your previous post.

  Best regards

  NP
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  Has the new Watchtower arrangement been announced in the UK yet?

  by Gill in

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  has the new watchtower arrangement been announced in the united kingdom yet?.

  just wondering if my family are up with the 'new light' yet!.

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  Well old Grandmother had a bit of a spring in her step apparently. Not only is there the assembly this weekend, but now they have been given this announcement, they seem to think that it is all part of the 'Jehovah is speeding things up' plan.
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  Isn't it amazing ... how many Christians chose to ignore the OT...?

  by needproof in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read this funny article about the god of the old testament, and i thought how amazing it was that some christians seemingly chose to ignore this brutal god of war, yahweh, as though in the nt, he suddenly had a change of heart.

  the deity is clearly a maniac with a bloodthirst.

  here is the article: .

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  Logic alone would tell you that Jesus is not the same character as the God of the Jews in the OT!
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  I get this nagging feeling something big is about to happen ?

  by 5go in

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  i don't know what wether the watchtower is going to implode or the begining of ww3 is about to happen.

  something big !.

  but something makes me feel weird, not afraid but ready for it.. maybe it is the psyco in me..

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  there could be some truth in your feelings. You cannot escape your destiny...
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  Who am I??

  by crazyblondeb in

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  this is going around at work.

  see if anyone knows the answer!.

  adam god made out of dust,.

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  ..a dumb blonde? lol - deb, sorry, I couldn't resist. j/k.
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  Has the new Watchtower arrangement been announced in the UK yet?

  by Gill in

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  has the new watchtower arrangement been announced in the united kingdom yet?.

  just wondering if my family are up with the 'new light' yet!.

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  Yes, my grandmother (still in) told my mother (now out) about it on the phone a couple of days ago
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  Rats in NY City Taco Bell

  by DevonMcBride in

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  make sure you're not eating when you see this.. http://youtube.com/watch?v=sdvljhwhnyq.

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  eww no way - no more KFC for me, don't care if it's New York - they can go to hell! How could they get so lax?
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  Isn't it amazing ... how many Christians chose to ignore the OT...?

  by needproof in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read this funny article about the god of the old testament, and i thought how amazing it was that some christians seemingly chose to ignore this brutal god of war, yahweh, as though in the nt, he suddenly had a change of heart.

  the deity is clearly a maniac with a bloodthirst.

  here is the article: .

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  Some good comments here,

  Marcel, your thoughts are identical to mine; this is why I created this thread.

  "The merging of the old and new testaments is one of the most bizarre literary conflagrations in the history of humanity." - how true!

  "The tones don't match, and it is possible that they are not speaking about the same god" I think that it is impossible that they ARE speaking about the same god!

  Mikeus, with all due respect to you, I think you should do the research in Christian theology! You haven't actually answered anything, just spoken in circles and tried to claw your way out. Very Watchtower-esque. How many times have we heard the 'it doesn't really mean that' line? So God kills man woman and child in the Old Testament, comes with love in the New Testament - are you denying that God actually did this or what? I don't understand this 'greater meaning' of yours, please initiate us into your wise ways.
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  Deep thoughts: Is Jehovah omnipotent?

  by Paralipomenon in

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  jehovah is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient.

  he is the god of gods and all powerful.

  this is a fairly accepted teaching and one that no active witness would argue with.

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  ‘They have set up kings, but not by me; they have made princes, and I knew it not.’ – Hosea 8.4

  ‘The Lord was with Judah; and he drove out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley because they had chariots of iron.’ - Judges 1.19
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  Isn't it amazing ... how many Christians chose to ignore the OT...?

  by needproof in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read this funny article about the god of the old testament, and i thought how amazing it was that some christians seemingly chose to ignore this brutal god of war, yahweh, as though in the nt, he suddenly had a change of heart.

  the deity is clearly a maniac with a bloodthirst.

  here is the article: .

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  needproof

  I read this funny article about the God of the Old Testament, and I thought how amazing it was that some Christians seemingly chose to ignore this brutal god of war, Yahweh, as though in the NT, he suddenly had a change of heart.

  The deity is clearly a maniac with a bloodthirst. Here is the article:

  A God in Man's Image

  All cultures have anthropomorphized their gods into humanoid (if sometimes grotesque) form. Were the Jews the exception? Hardly. We know precisely what the Hebrew god looked like. We are, after all, fashioned in his own likeness. He was a man, no doubt looking remarkably like the bearded sage asking us to worship him. He has body parts: eyes and a face (‘they are not hid from my face, neither is their iniquity hid from mine eyes’ – Jeremiah 16.17); nose and a mouth (Psalms 18.8); lips, tongue and breath (Isaiah 30.27,33); loins (Ezekiel 1.27); even ‘back parts’ (Exodus 33.23). He also has several ‘human’ emotions, manly appetites, and a worrying disposition towards pathological violence.

  Yahweh feels regret for his own evil (‘And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.’ - Jonah 3.10); and grief (at the wickedness of men) (‘and it grieved him at his heart’ - (Genesis 6.6). He actually gets down and wrestles with Jacob, dislocating his thigh (Genesis 32.24). He forgets (he goes on calling Jacob ‘Jacob’ even after re-naming him ‘Israel’ - Genesis 35.10, 46.2). He practises favouritism (choosing the Israelites ‘above all people’ - Exodus 19.5; but he just does not like Cain or Esau!). He holds grudges (‘I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation’ – Exodus 20.5).

  For an omniscient god he is surprisingly unknowing (‘They have set up kings, but not by me; they have made princes, and I knew it not.’ – Hosea 8.4). And for an omnipotent god he has his limitations (‘The Lord was with Judah; and he drove out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley because they had chariots of iron.’ - Judges 1.19).

  And after his creation of the world, he even has to rest from his labour (‘And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work’ - Genesis 2.2) – to the endless bemusement of pagan critics, whose own gods didn’t need to rest!

  Carnivore

  The most disturbing aspect of Yahweh’s humanoid personality, however, is his blood-lust. The smell of burning flesh is a ‘sweet savour unto the lord’ – so sweet, in fact, that the phrase appears in the Old Testament no fewer than twenty-three times. The butchery demanded by god is truly monumental. Believers are required to sacrifice two lambs day-by-day continuously – and that’s just for starters! Just as well Yahweh had several thousand priests to help him trough through the banquet!

  Livestock bears the brunt of god’s appetite but humans could so easily get the chop from the big guy. God kills Uzzah for simply steadying the tumbling Ark (1Chronicles 13.9,10). Poor Onan was zapped for using the withdrawal method of birth control (Genesis 38.10). But such isolated vindictiveness palls in comparison with the mass killings of the Lord. When the autocratic Moses faces a rebellion led by Korah, God uses an earthquake and fire to consume two hundred and fifty rebels. When indignant sympathizers protest at the injustice, God wipes out another fourteen thousand seven hundred with a plague (Numbers 16). What a guy!

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  What do you think?