Posts by dustrabbit

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Help or advise wanted

by JG in

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i'm a brand newbie to your forum.

i'm a "non believing" husband (12 years) of a returning witness.

i'm a devout "cat lick" and my wife is returning to the kh after 12 years.

JG: You got my sympathy, because if she's returning to the JWs after a 12 year absence, there's got to be some serious issues going on inside her. But then agian, addiction is a terrible beast.
As for the kids: How old are they? Does she actually listen to what they say, assuming that they have at least some opinions already formed. I started having my crisis of conscious when I was eight over the blood issue. Other things came later.
Personally, I'm watching my own marriage crumble but for different reasons. But I find it interesting that since my wife grew up in a group-oriented society/culture, she doesn't like to think for herself, much like the JWs. No matter how much i try to talk her, she doesn't want to listen to me because I don't think like how her group says she must think. Thus, my opinion is wrong and isn't too be listened to.
So, I think if your wife is really into the JWs, give it up. Save the kids. But if she shows any cracks in her faith, I'd show her the UN-JW connection. If there's anything besides the Catholic Church that the JWs love to needle and harp on, it's the UN.
Also, don't worry if you get divorced. Realize this: do you want to live in hell for the rest of your life? Just get a good lawyer and fight for custody of the kids on the grounds that she is placing them in a religious cult and they don't have the freedom to choose.
Take care,
the dustrabbit

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A question for XJWs. . .

by StinkyPantz in

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how many of you are now atheists or agnostics?

how many of you have actually converted to another organized religion?

personally i find myself doubting anything and everything i learned about the bible and religion.

dustrabbit

Yep, Stinky, I'm doubtin' everything too. I wonder if I'm the reincarnation of Doubting Thomas? Heh Heh....Personally, I'd say I'm agnostic, becuase for some stinkin' reason, i believe in an afterlife which implies there's some sort of higher being running the show, or at least on the other side.
As for the bible, I don't believe it. When I took a class, "Bible as Literature" at Metro State College in Denver, it really opened my eyes. And let's say all those conservative Christians in my class were just as closedminded as the JWs. They couldn't even believe that the first four/five books of the bible couldn't have been written by one person (i.e. Moses) and that they had been revised and re-"vision"ed by multiple people. Hell, even when I was ten years old, I realized that there were two different ark stories that were done in different "voices", as writers would put it. Plus, other scriptures that lead you to believe the first few books of the OT were added to after "Moses" may have written them. But that's another thread for another day.
peace the dustrabbit

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28

Discover Your Past Life... FUNNY!!!

by MrMoe in

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discover your past life... .

http://www.emode.com/emode/tests/animal_past.jsp.

my results.

dustrabbit

Goddamit! This sounded like my childhood in the JWs -- always being shunned by the kool kids in the KH. [8>]

Dog

C'mere, boy — in your former life you were a beagle named Scooter who hailed from Allamakee, Iowa. The cutest puppy on the entire farm, you were so adored that the Allamakee High Junior Varsity Basketball team chose you to be their mascot. You absolutely loved the attention — the cheers, the cool purple-and-yellow jersey, and, most of all, the pizza parties after the games. But you fell out of favor when your sister gave birth to Niko, a snot-nosed young pup who became the newest recruit for the JV team's mascot position. As Niko's popularity grew, the team began to neglect you. No longer did they chant your name when they held you over the basket to slam dunk the ball. No more did they make T-shirts with your adorable mug above the "Antonio's Chinese Food" logo. Then, finally, they fired you when you bit the point guard's mother. After much moping and grieving, you decided to be happy for little Niko. So, armed with your new contentment, you found it in yourself to support Niko and the JV team — not from the court, but from your new spot in the bleachers.

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When did you have your first date??

by Nicolas in

i'm 19 years old and i still don't have a girlfriends, i'm starting to think that i'm not normal.

what is the average age for this?

dustrabbit

Don't feel bad Nicolas, if you're telling the truth.
I didn't start dating until after i left home and was 19. Got laid when it was my 20th birthday...man, that was a real mindf&^%, let me tell ya.
the dustrabbit.

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8

a quick survey:

by dustrabbit in

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all right, i'm still a newbie, but here's a great way for me to do some research: a survey!.

a. born into "the truth" (as the jws put it.).

b. joined between ages 4-12. c. joined between ages 13-21. d. joined after the age of 22.

dustrabbit

Nah, puff...i'm a writer who has been kickin' around with some story ideas that have some inspiration from my JW roots...but if you wanna dare me to answer fine:

1. Forced into it when I was almost five.
2. Never baptized, just forced to go until I was 18 and decided I didn't need to be a slave nay longer. Actually the truth set me free a long time before that, it was just that dear old Mom and Dad forced me to go to the KH and they couldn't understand why that i didn't enjoy the thought of dying if i ever had the misfortune of needing a blood transfusion and being denied one b/c some kooky GB and their god said I couldn't.
3. The other questions can be answered if you want to know when I post some of my non-fiction writing that I did back in college....
4. I'm white/hispanic...and that's all for now..
the dustrabbit

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Jubilee Celebrations Forbidden To Witness Kids.

by Englishman in

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today, tuesday, is the fourth day of celebrating queen elizabeth 2nds golden jubilee in the uk.

whether youre a royalist or not doesnt really matter, the queen is, especially to the english, a part of our heritage.

its history being made in glorious technicolour.. so, theres lots of celebrating been goin on over the last 4 days.

dustrabbit

Oh well, maybe it's just me talking from a Yank's point of view, but I guess the only thing the kiddies would really from the festivites was the fireworks and the 3-hour rock concert...."Kids just wanna rock."
The dustrabbit

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a quick survey:

by dustrabbit in

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all right, i'm still a newbie, but here's a great way for me to do some research: a survey!.

a. born into "the truth" (as the jws put it.).

b. joined between ages 4-12. c. joined between ages 13-21. d. joined after the age of 22.

dustrabbit

All right, I'm still a newbie, but here's a great way for me to do some research: A Survey!

1. Were you:
A. Born into "the truth" (as the JWs put it.)
B. Joined between ages 4-12
C. Joined between ages 13-21
D. Joined after the age of 22

2. Why did you become a baptized JW or associated with JWs?

3. If you were a child in the JWs and are no longer in the church:
A. Why did you leave?
B. Did you enjoy your time in? (God, that line sure makes the JWs sound like prison :X ) Give reasons why you feel the way you do.

4. If you are still in the JWs, why are you still in?

5. What is your highest education level? If you are a former member, what was the highest level of education you obtained while you were still in? And what is it now that you are gone from the Organization?

6. What is/was your biggest complaint about the JW doctrine?

7. If you are/were part of an interracial relationship/partner as a JW or when you were one, what the reception you recieved from your "brothers and sisters"? What is/was the ethnic make-up of the relationship?
And what you do think is the attitude of the Organization towards interracial relationships?

8. If you are Asian/Asian-American, would you be willing to discuss with me through email about your experiences in the JWs?

Thanks,
Dustrabbit

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1.Still waiting to goose the Organization.

44

Dateline Aftermath

by silentlambs in

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the result of the airing of the dateline program has been very positive.

dateline program will no doubt air again in reruns and may get further coverage soon.

there have been many mixed emotions as a result of this program.

dustrabbit

Great Scot!
The silentlamb hit 'em where it hurts the most.
Just curious, will the GB declare it "new light" from Jehovah that was released on his own sweet time and he is now allowing these perverts and their protectors to get hung out to dry or will they declare it a case of Jehovah not making the victims eduring more they can bear?
And as the old saying, inquiring minds want know, but do you think that after them there perverts are exposed does that mean they have to play with each other from now on? (Believe me, I'm not trying to make light of the victims, but I do have a lot of contemp for a religion that always takes great delight at wagging its middle finger at the Cathloic Church...and you know many JWs when they are out preaching are having a field day with the Catholic priest sex scandal...Ironic...)
Well, anyway, good job silentlamb.
The dustrabbit

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I FINALLY HAD 69!!!!!!!!!!

by MarchOn in

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aw geez, i meant i finally hit 69 posts.

dustrabbit

one alledgedly scribbled:

jw holes/opinions are implanted by wt hospitals under the direction of gb surgeons.

Oh, my f%^&ing god! It's the return of the eX-(JW)Files. Before you know it Fox Mulder will come out of hiding to investigate claims that the GB and other assorted henchmen from Bethel are planting subliminal messages on your TV screen ("Get Watchtower from your local independent publisher." "Donate a fifty for Christ." "Do not be afraid of the Church of Used Car Salesmen.")
And just as the X-Files Matra that was so fondly obsessed over by Mulder: The thurth is out there....it just ain't in the New Kingdom.

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Just got back from China

by Perry in

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i decided to say hello to all my fellow posters after a week of absence.

nothing insightful to say other than my trip to hong kong was a blast.

i hooked up with about 7 or 8 aussies and we did up hong kong right.

dustrabbit

Hi folks,
[disclaimer: it's late here, and I'm feeling a little drowsy, so forgive for the typos, if there are any]
I'm an American ex-JW living and teaching here in Guangzhou... Actually, I should state for the record, I was never baptized, but grew up in "the truth" from ages 4 to 18.
Anyway, it's kinda strange living in China. I figure JWs and Asians have something in common: both promote group-centered thinking. However, someone who's really close to me that's Chinese, doesn't really understand much the specific religious tenet that I grew up with, so it does make it difficult talking about the JWs. Yet she does understand the dynamics of how the group (i.e., the Organization) puts itself at the forefront of your life.
By the way, Kunming, China is a great place weatherwise and for a nice getaway. But Guangzhou has some of the comforts of American Tv (via Hong Kong) and fast food....but no Mountain Dew.
Peace,
the dustrabbit

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