Oto Lutar, former JW, recently sent this letter to our branch office in Slovenia:
Dear Sirs
My name is Oto Lutar. I was a member of the Association of Jehovahs Witnesses until 20.12. 2001 when I was disfellowshiped. Up to now I haven't received any official document regarding my disfellowshippment. In the archives of the congregation Murska Sobota and in the archives of the principal office in Ljubljana there are some documents with my personal data. Therefore I require from the Association of Jehovahs Witnesses that they should hand me over copies of all the documents with my personal data: the copy of the congregational publishers card, a copy of the S-77 form, all copies of my hearing by the judicial committee and the copies of any other documents containing my personal data. Besides I demand from the Association of Jehovahs Witnesses an official confirmation of my disfellowshippment.
I stand to my rights stated in the Data Protection Act by Republic of Slovenia.
After about a month, we recieved this reply:
Dear Sirs,Regarding your request for handing over all the copies of your personal documents to you personally we wish to inform you that here in our archives and in the registry of the congregation in Murska Sobota we do not possess any documents containing your personal data.
In the states where the data protection law is in force the Association of Jehovahs Witnesses use no documents containing an personal data, except from the publishers card which is destroyed when the individual is disassociated or disfellowshipped.
We enclose herewith: the atestation letterTHE ATESTATION LETTERWith this atestation letter we confirm that Oto Lutar, living in Cresnjevci 59, Gornja Radgona. is not a member of the Association of Jehovahs Witnesses.Oto is planning to write another request to them. Now, how can he prove, they still have those documents? If you have any ideas, please help.
Thanx in advance!
Izzy
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HELP! WT denies possesion of personal data
by izobcenec inoto lutar, former jw, recently sent this letter to our branch office in slovenia:.
dear sirs.
2001 when i was disfellowshiped.
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So you wanna learn how to.....
by Jourles ini have seen a few posts in the past with people asking about various methods they can incorporate with regard to hiding their identity on the web, faking email, masking their ip address, probing a server, etc.
the word hacker usually conjures up images of a computer wizard as being a geeky looking person with thick horn-rimmed glasses or one with freakish colored hair and multiple body piercings.
you cannot tell the difference in who is a hacker and who is not if you were to walk down the street and look at people.
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izobcenec
hey thats great! just what I need now
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S-77 form question
by izobcenec inwe recently requested copies of documents with personal information from the society.. we recieved a reply, in which they state, that because the privacy laws, they dont use.
any documents with personal information.
the only exeption is "publisher record card",.
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izobcenec
We recently requested copies of documents with personal information from the Society.
We recieved a reply, in which they state, that because the privacy laws, they dont use
any documents with personal information. The only exeption is "publisher record card",
which is destroyed after one is d/f or d/a.
Do you have any info if that is true? Dont they use S-77 forms in all countries? What
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In Other Languages??
by Utopian_Raindrops inis any of the infomation about the wtbs available in other languages.....and if so...which ones and where?.
like the pedephila cover up or the ngo status?
the erronious date?any of it?.
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izobcenec
you can check this link:
http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/links.html
look under "Foreign Sites"
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New Literature No Longer Announced in km!
by GermanXJW inat least the german edition of "our kingdom ministry" says that new literature is no longer announced in the km.
instead there will be a letter from the society that is read and shown at the announcement board.. maybe they want to use the space in the km for other things.
or they just want keep those informed that attend meetings.
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izobcenec
The announcement can be found in our Slovenian KM too...
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Official- Bethel cutbacks?
by No Apologies inmy wife told me that last night a letter was read from the society, explaining how all printing operations in brooklyn were being moved to either walkill or patterson, and that worldwide there would be consolidation of the printing operations.
i know there have been rumors like this floating around here for the last month or so, but now it seems there is confirmation.
has anyone else heard about this letter being read?
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izobcenec
I have read somewhere, that they are going to sell the Brooklyn complex to the city New York, if
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Ray Franz pics
by izobcenec inhello...we are currently translating crisis of conscience into slovenian language.... i would like to introduce ray franz to our readers and i would need few pics of him.... they are few on the net (freeminds, beacon) but mostly low quality...can anyone scan.
thanx in advance!.
izzy
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izobcenec
thanx fjtoth, thats MUCH better
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Ray Franz pics
by izobcenec inhello...we are currently translating crisis of conscience into slovenian language.... i would like to introduce ray franz to our readers and i would need few pics of him.... they are few on the net (freeminds, beacon) but mostly low quality...can anyone scan.
thanx in advance!.
izzy
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izobcenec
yes, we contacted Ray first...we have his permission
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Ray Franz pics
by izobcenec inhello...we are currently translating crisis of conscience into slovenian language.... i would like to introduce ray franz to our readers and i would need few pics of him.... they are few on the net (freeminds, beacon) but mostly low quality...can anyone scan.
thanx in advance!.
izzy
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izobcenec
Hello...we are currently translating Crisis of conscience into Slovenian language...
I would like to introduce Ray Franz to our readers and I would need few pics of him...
They are few on the net (freeminds, beacon) but mostly low quality...can anyone scan
something? Thanx in advance!
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Watchtower observer dead?
by izobcenec in.
what happened to that great site, that opened my eyes.... http://www.observer.org/.
i'm sad
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izobcenec
What happened to that great site, that opened my eyes...
http://www.observer.org/
I'm sad