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  Why Did Jesus Not Write Anything ?

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  have you ever wondered why jesus did not put anything in writing?

  he was here to explain his father to us and teach us how to gain salvation.

  wouldn't it have been a good thing to write his instructions down, rather than leave it up to others many years later?

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  I agree that the speed of acceptance, (if you want to call it that), doesen't mean anything in itself. But a study of just how different the Roman world was, as opposed to Christian philosphy, is quite stark. Why did the people choose to believe this? Could it have been because much of the basic philosophy, (outside of the "miracles", resurrection, etc), actually made some sense to these people? I dunno. But just because certain emperical evidence dosen't appear to exist, in support of a living "Jesus", dosen't disqualify the fact that something significant happend during this time. What was that? If anyone knows, I like to hear it. (No challenge here, just looking for information).

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  Why Did Jesus Not Write Anything ?

  by choosing life in

  1. jw
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  have you ever wondered why jesus did not put anything in writing?

  he was here to explain his father to us and teach us how to gain salvation.

  wouldn't it have been a good thing to write his instructions down, rather than leave it up to others many years later?

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  The hostility was not meant I am bored today nothing to do I thought by coming across frankly it would make you want to prove the ASS HOLE in cyberland wrong. When I first started coming to this board I believed in the bible and everything in it. I would argue with the posters, with in a few months JWD posters proved me wrong about creation and the bible. Then they took my Jesus away from me. I was mad for a while. I now I feel so free it is very nice too feel free from the overwhelming pressure that the GOD of the bible gives you.

  I'm with ya...

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  Why Did Jesus Not Write Anything ?

  by choosing life in

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  have you ever wondered why jesus did not put anything in writing?

  he was here to explain his father to us and teach us how to gain salvation.

  wouldn't it have been a good thing to write his instructions down, rather than leave it up to others many years later?

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  done4good

  Way too much evidence against the Jesus that you believe in done4good. Prove me wrong I dare you done4good

  Why the hostility, may I ask? If you read my following posts, maybe you would get the point. But since, because maybe I just wasn't clear enough for you, I'll clear it up. I don't necessarily believe he DID exist. But rational arguments, appear to go both ways. True, little secular information, aside from the highly questionable Josephus writings provide any mention of the man. This is well known. However, it does NOT account for this movement of Christianity, arising at a time, and taking people out of many different belief systems, and suddendly becoming willing to die for this cause. Why is that??? This is why many historians can't conclusively agree that the man did not exist. Best assumptions seem to be that some man named "Jesus" did, not neccesarily in the first century, but perhaps long before that, exist. As time went on, combined with the opression of the Roman system over the Jews, as well as the oppression of the Jewish system, itself, people decided to "take" to this belief system. That may be, but it sounds like a lot to happen within a century.

  I apologize, if somehow I sounded hostile.

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  Why Did Jesus Not Write Anything ?

  by choosing life in

  1. jw
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  have you ever wondered why jesus did not put anything in writing?

  he was here to explain his father to us and teach us how to gain salvation.

  wouldn't it have been a good thing to write his instructions down, rather than leave it up to others many years later?

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  done4good

  Just look how history is tampered with before our eyes with George Bush lying about his reasons for invading Iraq and half the country believes him.

  Not to run off with the thread, but good point.

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  Why Did Jesus Not Write Anything ?

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  1. jw
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  have you ever wondered why jesus did not put anything in writing?

  he was here to explain his father to us and teach us how to gain salvation.

  wouldn't it have been a good thing to write his instructions down, rather than leave it up to others many years later?

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  done4good

  It wasnt my post but I suggest you google it. Well see you back here in about a year after you go through all the information.

  I don't need a year, I've been researching this for some time, btw. I don't claim to be Christian in the absolute sense, so I have no bias in terms of what to believe. I just want straight, (non dogmatic, of which Zeroday's was quite), answers.

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  Why Did Jesus Not Write Anything ?

  by choosing life in

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  have you ever wondered why jesus did not put anything in writing?

  he was here to explain his father to us and teach us how to gain salvation.

  wouldn't it have been a good thing to write his instructions down, rather than leave it up to others many years later?

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  If you dig to deeply, you may find there never was a Jesus. Outside of the bible there really is no evidence. The works of the historian Josephus are contested and doubt has been cast on their validity,particulary his references to Jesus. The bible says when Jesus was resurrected the dead arrose from their graves and walked about. Dont you think an event like that would be recorded in secular history if it really happened?

  I don't disagree with that, however even among non-believers, (such as Dawkins, although he is not an expert in this field), the general consensus, is that he did exist. The question seems to be more of, "who was he?".

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  Why Did Jesus Not Write Anything ?

  by choosing life in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have you ever wondered why jesus did not put anything in writing?

  he was here to explain his father to us and teach us how to gain salvation.

  wouldn't it have been a good thing to write his instructions down, rather than leave it up to others many years later?

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  done4good

  Because he did not exist.

  Prove that point, please.

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  Why Did Jesus Not Write Anything ?

  by choosing life in

  1. jw
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  have you ever wondered why jesus did not put anything in writing?

  he was here to explain his father to us and teach us how to gain salvation.

  wouldn't it have been a good thing to write his instructions down, rather than leave it up to others many years later?

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  done4good

  Jesus did refer to himself as "The Word". His emphasis was more towards teaching by example. The current emphasis on the bible being the "word" of God is actually misplaced in Christian theology.

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  Facts about the NT Bible

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  historically, the bible is a secondary support for christians and jews.

  i was raised roman catholic, and our tradition and practices included the bible, but it was not a key centerpiece of our faith.

  the jewish side of my family likewise have a rich history of tradition and faith that is lived, and not pinned down to every word in the bible.

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  Jim, LT, Lil, excellent information!

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  Christianity did NOT borrow from pagan "Dying-Rising" God motifs

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  it is a fallacy that the early christians weaved the tale of a dying and rising god-man on the loom of mystery religions.

  the idea of the dying-rising god as a parallel to the christian concept of the death and resurrection of christ was popularized by james frazer in the golden bough, first published in 1906. scholar edwin yamauchi (1974; easter: myth, hallucination, or history?

  ) has observed that, although frazer marshaled many parallels, the foundation was very fragile and has been discredited by a host of scholars since frazers ideas were at the height of their popularity in the 1960s.

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  done4good

  Very, very well said, Moggy!

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