Posts by Dawn

in the book "your youth: getting the best out of it", it suggests that people not date until they reach maturity, which is usually in a person's early twenties.

was this enforced at your kingdom hall, or were there jws openly dating younger than 20 (not in secret)?

Dawn

Any sister that made it to 25 without getting married was considered an undesirable old maid.

Exactly!! That's how it was here also. Now I'm glad I didn't get married @ 18 - I would have missed out on an awful lot of fun.

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Dreams

by Elders_Kid in

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it's been a while since i have posted here, but i still try to read a thread or two when i have time.. question: does anybody have dreams/nightmares about being a dub?

over the course of the past couple of months, i have had some really realistic dreams about my younger days as a dub.

usually they involve me in a heated argument with my parents about going door-to-door.

Dawn

Funny you should ask - I just had the greatest dream about this last night.

I was at a convention with my mom - she somehow convinced me to go with her. And I was so TOTALLY bored because the talks were so simple and not really in depth. So I left the main convention area and walked down to the lounge (apparently there are lounges at the conventions in MY dreams!). Pretty soon a few of the elder's sons showed up down in the lounge and we were all having a great time listening to the music, drinking beer, and smoking (I quit over a year ago but still smoke in my dreams).

After a bit the elders and their wives came down and tried to get their sons to leave the lounge and come back to the convention - but none of them would. We were telling them now BORING the convention was and we were having fun. The elders left and one of the moms then turned her back to shun me and we all laughed at her and went on drinking and smoking.

Weird dream - but I woke up laughing - it was great! I guess I am moving on - I used to have nightmares about Armageddon - now I just dream up ways to make the convention more interesting.

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Just told a dub about the UN letter; the blind just won't see

by acsot in

i just told a dub here at work about the letter.

when the dub told me i was on my way out of watchtower-land anyhow, but the blatant hypocrisy just floored me.

okay, so here's how the conversation went:

Dawn

You could show pictures of the GB in army fatigues sticking a boynette into a person and a closed minded JW would scream that the pics were doctored.

Well OF COURSE those pictures are doctored. Everyone knows their too old to serve in the army!

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Since leaving how have you changed?

by Joysome in

what do you find yourself doing differently?.

do you ever feel a little shocked when your opinions on certain things have changed?

things that you were once so adamantly against?.

Dawn

I am more relaxed - and content with my life. Not sure if that's because I'm an x-JW or just that I'm older now . But I know some things that have definately changed because I'm no longer a JW:

- I'm more open minded to alternate theories and possibilities. I know that I do not have all the answers and that I have been deceived before so it's important to keep an open mind and view all facts on a subject

- I'm less judgmental. I recognize that we are all imperfect and on the same level - and it is not my job to judge someone else, Jesus made it very clear that it was HIS job to do that, my job is to just love people.

- I'm more daring - I like to try new things, new sports, new foods, new hobbies, etc. Perhaps I'm not more daring so much as now I actually have the TIME to do these things.

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Son's going to Mexico, HELP

by kls in

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my two son's ages 20 and 25 are planning a trip to puerto vallarta mexico .i need some advice from anyone who lives there or has vacationed there on what to watch out for .this is their first trip anywhere and they and i are clueless on what to look out for and not be taken advantage of ,and how to stay safe.

any help would be greatly appreciated .

kls

Dawn

Good advice from everyone here. My only additional piece of advice would be to stay within the tourist areas - don't go off an a hike somewhere outside of the "safe" zones.

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My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 4

by Simon in

my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 1 .

my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 2 .

my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 3

Dawn

Hey Simon - great story! Thanks for sharing. This site was a HUGE help to me when I was looking for answers. And I like your comment about becoming an ex-ex-JW. Perhaps some day I will be able to move on like that - but for now, I feel compelled to stick around and help others that are wanting/coming out.

I wish you and Anghard the best!

By the way - I think that seeing your children be able to really LIVE, that does a lot of healing all in itself. Everytime my kids have been able to do something I couldn't (x-mas, birthdays, etc) - it is almost as if that "wrong" has been erased. I couldn't do it - but now my kids can, so the good has overwritten the bad. It sounds as if this is somewhat how you feel now also.

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[fluff] HOW old are you?

by Nathan Natas in

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check out this site:.

http://www.frontiernet.net/~cdm/age1.html.

Dawn

I was 3 years old at the time the first man stepped on the moon - and I actually remember that. It made a big impression on me - my parents talked about it non-stop. My dad was pretty excited about it.

He did make an interesting comment to me once - said he thought he lived in the most interesting time ever in that more technological advances and inventions had been made during his lifetime than ever before. He's right - if you think about cloning, nuclear, medical, and space travel- it's just amazing.

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Do all informed JW's deny the man Christ Jesus as their mediator?

by hooberus in

many here are familiar with the current watchtower doctrine that jesus is the mediator for only the 144,000. .

members of the great crowd who know and believe wt doctrine on this subject will deny that jesus christ is their mediator.

those of the remant who know and believe wt doctrine on this subject will claim to have jesus christ as their mediator, but will deny that the mediator is a man.. however, the bible says that the mediator is .

Dawn

I just don't seem right. A "man" who isn't on dirt somewhere, is floating around with invisible angels in the sky. I can't grasp it.

Gumby: You're thinking one dimensional - you're assuming that "heaven" must be somewhere up in the sky. It may, in fact, be another dimension. It is a proven that there are more dimensions to this universe than the one we live in.