Posts by freemindfade

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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues

by jp1692 in

in the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.

it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?

my goodness.

freemindfade

The statistics aren't his opinion brainiac, still just cold hard facts no matter how much you throw a fit about it.

This idiot probably thinks like you that taking assault rifles out the possession of the population isn't going to lower the carnage by individualized massacres.

I would never say something so absolute, let me ask you, do you have data to back that up? that taking assault rifles out of the pop will lower carnage? No, you don't because there isn't any. If anything there is more to the contrary that it's inconclusive. FACT: Gun crime was already declining BEFORE the last AWB, it declined DURING, and AFTER it ended and people bought millions of these scary looking things. Amazing how logic works isn't it?

This guys opinion is pretty sound, he is implying halfwits like yourself who squeal "MUH GUN CONTROL" don't help to change anything, you don't add anything meaningful, just gridlock discussion so you can virtue flag. This guy was even denouncing the NRA but you probably didn't actually read it did you.

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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues

by jp1692 in

in the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.

it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?

my goodness.

freemindfade

You guys are pulling information from web sites financially connected to the NRA and gun owner stores and you dont realize your getting twisted and corruptly biased facts

Ok jackass, here is one from the LA Times, not NRA but leftists propaganda rag. Better?

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-winkler-folly-of-assault-weapon-ban-20151211-story.html

Little wonder then that a 2004 study commissioned by the Department of Justice found that the federal ban didn't lead to any decrease in gun crime or gun deaths. For starters, rifles, assault or otherwise, are rarely used in gun crime. Notwithstanding the two rifles used in San Bernardino (and a few other memorable mass killings), rifles account for only about 3% of criminal gun deaths. Gun crime in the United States, including most mass shootings, is overwhelmingly handgun crime.

There are approaches to gun control, such as universal background checks and cracking down on rogue gun dealers, that can reduce the daily death toll from guns. It may seem like a victory for the forces of good to ban assault weapons, but such laws aren't the answer. Assault weapon bans are bad policy and bad politics.

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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues

by jp1692 in

in the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.

it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?

my goodness.

freemindfade

suicides too.

Suicides for sure, most gun deaths are suicides, no denying that whatsoever.

What potentially has a higher uselessness in killing people ? a single knife or a rapid fire semi-automatic assault rifles

The question is pointless. I don't think this kid would have been satisfied with a knife. He is a mass murderer. He likely would have found another way or! Got a gun ILLEGALLY, yes people, that can happen, most the murders in a blood-soaked high gun control place like Chicago are committed with illegal guns owned by gang members and other criminals who would never buy one legally in the first place. Thats reality, not fantasy land of "which is worse, knife or gun" that's ridiculous oversimplification.

Lets talk Paddock again, the vegas shooter, he had an insane arsenal, 47 guns in his room. he shot something like 1100 rounds, wounding scores of people, and killing 58, it was insane over the top display of firepower, but, 1 bus in France kills 86 people...

The human desire to kill is far more deadly than any weapon

You guys are pulling information from web sites financially connected to the NRA and gun owner stores and you dont realize your getting twisted and corruptly biased facts

Whatever you got to tell yourself, murder rates and gun statistics are not made up. Facts are facts.

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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues

by jp1692 in

in the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.

it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?

my goodness.

freemindfade

Americans own around 15 million AR-15-style rifles. These guns are almost never used to commit violent crimes. According to the FBI, rifles of all kinds accounted for just 3 percent of firearm homicides in 2016, while handguns accounted for 65 percent. Contrary to what you may have heard, handguns are also by far the most common choice for mass shooters. A Mother Jones review of mass shootings from 1982 through 2012 found that 66 percent of the weapons were handguns, while just 14 percent would qualify as "assault weapons" under the definition used in a 2013 bill sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein.

The fact that the perpetrators of the deadliest mass shootings tend to favor "assault weapons" does not mean that choice makes the attacks deadlier than they otherwise would be. I know you like to say that like you somehow magically know, but you don't.

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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues

by jp1692 in

in the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.

it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?

my goodness.

freemindfade

Now what other gun was used in most of the other recent attacks ?

A terrorist in france killed more people with a vehicle than the Vegas shooter and the Parkland shooter combined btw

58 + 17 = 75 < 86

The thing that makes an AR15 so significantly different from another rifle, is cosmetic. Look at the previous AWB we had in this country. It did nothing. It was pointless, and it banned pointless things. The 1994 assault weapons law banned semi-automatic rifles only if they had any two of the following five features in addition to a

detachable magazine:
a collapsible stock,
a pistol grip,
a bayonet mount
a flash suppressor,
or a grenade launcher.

once again

too many people refuse to acknowledge: the human desire to kill is far more deadly than any weapon.

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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues

by jp1692 in

in the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.

it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?

my goodness.

freemindfade

Yes big f..ing deal Einstein
Now what other gun was used in most of the other recent attacks ?
I think we've got some trolling Forest Gumps here.
Just curious but is this picture of one of you guys ?

Too many facts for you fink?

Too much logic?

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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues

by jp1692 in

in the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.

it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?

my goodness.

freemindfade

Oh brother here we go again taking information from pro-gun web sites
You guys cant think for yourselves just like when you were a JWS ...... good grief

When did the DOJ become "muh progun websites"

You sound like the JW,

"hey I think there is something wrong with this religion..."

"oh did you read that on apostate sites!!"

None of the crap you copied an pasted fink proves you didn't state a nonfact. America and other countries gun ownership increases, and crime don't follow. YOU SAID

when you introduce a high volume of guns into the hands of the general population that there will be an increase of those guns used in acts of violence,

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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues

by jp1692 in

in the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.

it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?

my goodness.

freemindfade

In 2014 you were six times more likely to be murdered with a knife than you were with a rifle. Knives were the weapon of choice in 1,567 murders in 2014, according to the FBI. It gets crazier. You were also nearly three times more likely to be killed by someone’s fists or feet than you were to be murdered with a rifle. In 2014, 660 people were murdered with what the FBI calls “personal weapons”–hands, fists, feet–compared to 248 with rifles.

In the United States, knives are more deadly than rifles. So are fists. And feet. This isn't an opinion. It is an incontrovertible fact.

And it’s a fact that highlights a point that far too many people refuse to acknowledge: the human desire to kill is far more deadly than any weapon.

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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues

by jp1692 in

in the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.

it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?

my goodness.

freemindfade

sure its happened before but the amount of deaths would have been assuring less

Wrong again, why do you lie so much??? Maybe you shouldn't talk about something you clearly know nothing about

I already mentioned Virginia Tech shooter had two handguns and one was just a freaking .22! and he killed 33 people

33 > 17

A terrorist in france killed more people with a vehicle than the Vegas shooter and the Parkland shooter combined btw

58 + 17 = 75 < 86

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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues

by jp1692 in

in the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.

it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?

my goodness.

freemindfade

It isn't rocket science to make the evaluative conclusion that when you introduce a high volume of guns into the hands of the general population that there will be an increase of those guns used in acts of violence, hence the reason the US has such a high incidences of guns used in violent acts.

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Why are you lying Fink? Yea its not rocket science, its way easier than that and as usual you are patently wrong.

According to DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. gun-related homicides dropped 39 percent over the course of 18 years, from 18,253 during 1993, to 11,101 in 2011. During the same period, non-fatal firearm crimes decreased even more, a whopping 69 percent. The majority of those declines in both categories occurred during the first 10 years of that time frame. Firearm homicides declined from 1993 to 1999, rose through 2006, and then declined again through 2011. Non-fatal firearm violence declined from 1993 through 2004, then fluctuated in the mid-to-late 2000s.
According to surveys DOJ conducted of state prison inmates during 2004 (the most recent year of data available), only two percent who owned a gun at the time of their offense bought it at either a gun show or flea market. About 10 percent said they purchased their gun from a retail shop or pawnshop, 37 percent obtained it from family or friends, and another 40 percent obtained it from an illegal source.
While firearm violence accounted for about 70 percent of all homicides between 1993 and 2011, guns were used in less than 10 percent of all non-fatal violent crimes. Between 70 percent and 80 percent of those firearm homicides involved a handgun, and 90 percent of non-fatal firearm victimizations were committed with a handgun. Males, blacks, and persons aged 18-24 had the highest firearm homicide rates.
Last December, the FBI recorded a record number of 2.78 million background checks for purchases that month, surpassing a 2.01 million mark set the month before by about 39 percent. That December 2012 figure, in turn, was up 49 percent from a previous record on that month the year before. FBI checks for all of 2012 totaled 19.6 million, an annual record, and an increase of 19 percent over 2011.
Yet in the general population, and although the agenda-driven media hasn’t noticed, we can be grateful that gun violence has been trending downward since 1993 when it hit its last peak. Don’t want to credit a rise in gun ownership and concealed carry by law-abiding citizens for this good news? Fine. But then, don’t imagine that gun legislation is the reason or answer either. Leave that illusion to gun-control cheerleaders in the media.

The trend continues btw

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Even Australia, the world poster child for gun control, is buying more guns than ever! look it up.

How does it feel to be soooooo bloody wrong? let me remind you what you said.

when you introduce a high volume of guns into the hands of the general population that there will be an increase of those guns used in acts of violence