Posts by Bill Covert

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Jehovah's Witnesses' "disfellowshipping" examined in Psychiatric Journal. "How Religious Shunning Ruins Lives".

by Balaamsass2 in

if it is illegal for minors to get married, enter into contracts, drink, and smoke, why is it legal for them to enter into lifelong religious contracts they can not break without family shunning and community ostracism????

how religious shunning ruins lives.

a form of institutionalized estrangement, shunning hurts health of the excluded.. updated march 27, 2024 |psychology today magazine.

Bill Covert

IIED, cool

Thanks! I am currently in negotiations with the local Indian Casino on 4 parcels of real estate that separates a major development in the works from freeway interchange access. Price somewhere north of $1M.

I have been waiting 20 years for this scenario. Everyone of the letters included in the 2013 summer talk "Human Apostates" has centered on the Sept.1 1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" as to how it relates to two court cases; a $4.250M unregistered securities swindle and the defrauding of a widow. And on the cowardice of elders in the face of "wolves" Acts 20.

If and when those properties go into escrow this should be enough to bring some cowardly hearts to shut down. When Norway court case finished I dropped off the case and a letter advising the elders they should consider see their insurance agents as to getting personal liability insurance. They can't say they were not warned.

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I think I know what the GB is doing

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

read:.

but if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘my master is delaying,’b 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards.

hmm... let's see is anyone on the governing body a strict master and a drunkard?

Bill Covert

The position I have put forth is that in 1984 the "obedience to the Organization mantra" was introduced. It was quickly followed by the introduction of a brand new enemy "the apostate", along with the brand new sanction "the shunning policy". For written evidence I put forth the Sept. 1 1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" deception of Lev.5: 1 as a well thought out deception fabricated for the purpose of creating a Gestapo informant hunting license designed to ferret out the "apostate"!

I would put forth that there was a meeting to create this conspiracy in about 1983. This conspiracy was reactionary to the demise of Matt.24: 34 in 1975. As fertile imaginative minds go there was no one on the GB who could fill the shoes of F. Franz, the man was genius in the writing of fiction. As "apostates", "shunning" obedience to the GB was non existent prior to 1984 and that this was a package deal I would put forth that it was in 1983 the decision was made of a "faithful slave" to conspire to take over the 'household of God' being as how the "master delayed" in 1975.

To complete the "snare and racket" scenario this was when the 'cash cow' of interest paying building loans came into being.

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Spiritual Paradise? Jehovah's Witness cons JW seniors out of life savings.

by Balaamsass2 in

3/28/2024 central california coast.

found guilty of $1.2 million scam targeting seniors.

ex-insurance agent brett e. lovett convicted of fraud, elder abuse, grand theft, and money laundering".

Bill Covert

The church policy that covers fraud is 1Cor.6: 1-6. The victims are prohibited from using the courts to get justice. Go to court be shunned!

This is a ingrained issue with in the JW Church Isa.1:23 and their traveling men. There was a Wt. on 1Pet.5:2, it spoke of "simony" as a sin that traveling sell the word of God. This is why there multiple victims!

All my troubles stem from a swindler Ray Dale from the San Diego area. He had a 20+ year career defrauding widows and seniors. I emailed a JW attorney asked if he knew Ray Dale he said he was one of many San Diego attorney's who knew him.

If what I heard was true this attorney was disfellowshipped for representing a JW in court. From the same source Ray Dale also screwed the San Diego attorney James McCabe parents.

Last I seen of J. McCabe was a TV interview at the conclusion of the Candace Conti molestation. He did not look so very explaining the court loss.

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Alternative Military Service is Now OK

by Sea Breeze in

but i wonder: how many jw's went to prison during the years that the wt did not allow them to perform community service as an alternative to military service?.

anyone care to take a stab at the numbers?.

Bill Covert

That is correct.

I can't remember the name but there was guy in Redding [done moved away] who did alternative community service at a hospital, got disfellowshiped for it.

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Alternative Military Service is Now OK

by Sea Breeze in

but i wonder: how many jw's went to prison during the years that the wt did not allow them to perform community service as an alternative to military service?.

anyone care to take a stab at the numbers?.

Bill Covert

In my case the Redding Calif. Selectivity Service Board issued me a order to report to the LA CA. Charity Organization, for alternative community service, 1966 I believe. The letter I got back from Bethel was that would be a compromise of christian conscience.

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Alternative Military Service is Now OK

by Sea Breeze in

but i wonder: how many jw's went to prison during the years that the wt did not allow them to perform community service as an alternative to military service?.

anyone care to take a stab at the numbers?.

Bill Covert

Count me in. I got a fine, the judge position that prison was a government expense, the fine was government income.

Does have one up side, no jury duty.

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Is the Governing Body Apostate?

by Vanderhoven7 in

mark jones writes:.

actually, it was “love for jehovah” and a desire to “remain loyal to him” that made me leave the jehovah’s witness “religion”.. gradually, it became very clear to me that the organization does not represent jehovah.

if anything, it had become apostate.

Bill Covert

It took the ARC to bring a platform for the poster WOZZA to finally get people to listen to his point that Deut. 22:25-27 showed the "two witness rule" to be the work of an apostate.

I have been citing the 2013 RNWT revision of Lev.5:1 and the Sept.1 1987 Wt. article "A Time to speak When?" as being the work of an apostate. As it is a blatant deception to fabricate a "Gestapo informant policy" for the purpose of ferreting out apostates. I maintain that starting in about 1984 the church brought in four policies of "new light";1 the obedience to the Organization mantra, 2 emergence of a here to for new enemy the "apostate", 3 the shunning policy, 4 the need of a policy to ferret out any hidden enemies of the church by creating a Gestapo informant policy.

These four policies marked the journey of the "faithful slave" following the "delay of the master" in 1975 into the present GB Matt. 24: 48-51. The only thing I got out of that was providing Barbara Anderson the insight for her essay "Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals". After that I got hung out to dry and twist in the wind like Randall Waters.

Two weeks ago I got my personal invitation to the Memorial in the mail, it had a return address on the envelope. I sent them back a letter suggesting that the Redding elders who concealed a court case of the swindler central to my saga, [swindling another local widow] see their insurance providers and take out 'personal liability policies'. I own 4 real estate parcels 7.5 acres separating the local Indian Casino 40+ acre property cut off from a major freeway interchange. A month ago I was asked for a price of what I would take. Due to my age, the condition of my house and how far out the development plans are, the price is not that of a "gold mine" but rather a "copper mine". That goes thru the church the church has a hell of a problem.

So is the GB apostate? Both Deut. 22: 25-27 and Lev.5:1 would give a resounding YES!

But who listens to the Bible, Proverbs 1:20.

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Weirdest Jesus I’ve seen yet…

by stuckinlimbo in

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Bill Covert

I got my personal invitation mailed to me.

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Progress on the NWT Study Bible

by slimboyfat in

the society has been working on the nwt study bible since the revised nwt was released in 2013. so far they done the nt up to philemon.

that makes about 17% of the entire bible including the hebrew/aramaic scriptures.

at that rate the study edition of the whole nwt will be completed sometime around the year 2077. .

Bill Covert

I received my personal invitation to the memorial in the mail Saturday. I just finished typing out a reply, the same one I have been sending to the publishers homes since 2004, of which was highlighted in the 2013 summer talk on "Human Apostates".

The kicker here is that currently the local Indian Casino wants to purchase my four real estate properties that has their 40+acre development cut off from freeway interchange. If that happens then I become the smartest man in the room.

It has been 35 years I have been arguing the article "A Time to Speak When?" Sept. 1 1987 Wt. as to how it relates to a $4,250,000 unregistered securities fraud. And how that connects with church shunning policy.

Hopefully this is put up or shut up time for me.

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1970's Russell Pyramid Photo!

by Atlantis in

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1970's photo of the russell pyramid.

the picture was sent to us by a former bethelite who was also the person who took the picture.

of course, the pyramid is not there anymore.. .

Bill Covert

Russel had a Haberdashery shop. His wife had the money.