i hate pop ups on my computer.
i can't stand getting salespeople calling from the same company 3 times in a day!
i hate being behind asian or indian drivers........
A shopping cart with a bad wheel.
Rush hour traffic.
The phone company never getting my bill right.
Having to call customer service regarding a product or service and getting an unending series of automated menus which never has one specific to your needs and then being put on hold forever to aweful music for 15 or more minutes until you can speak to a human only to discover they need to transfer you to the right department.
today is my 1st year clean date!!
wanted to tell everybody thanks-- couldn't have done it without everyone here!!.
love ya'll.
CONGRATUATIONS!!!
a year ago, i would've never attended.
what a difference a little time makes, huh?
I just got the nerve to obtain the book Crisis of Conscious some months back so why not.
i approached an elder last week, and asked him if the society was against higher education because of the comments brought out in the drama.
he said the society disapproves of higher education.. .
he privately told me he disagrees with the view the society has on education - he said it should be a personal choice.. .
"Elder I know has both his kids in college WITH his support."
Probably because he doesn't want to clothe and feed them for the rest of his life!
sorry no raised-a-dub responses here!
just ex-jw who joined as adults.
on another thread i pointed out the idea that most jw who join as adults, do so out of a need to compensate for or as a reaction to some bad experiences such as physical abuse, sexual abuse, a time of upheaval, or just a plain old poorly developed sense of self.
I guess I had to do that after I left. I left and just put things on the back burner for a while. I didn't want to think about anything as far as that was concerned. When I left I still believed it to a large degree. But when I would think about it. When God delt in individuals in the bible, he didn't always send a human representative from an organization here on earth to deal with them directly. He looked at humans and not the organization they were part of; examples: Job, Mary, Jonah, Lot; and Jesus did the same; examples: woman at the well. He did not disfellowship those who may have had doubts; like Barnabas; and would the WTS show as much mercy to Peter as Jesus did?
most persons, imo, are pressured to get baptized.
they are told they "should be ready".
children are made to feel that jehovah will not protect them any longer at a certain age.
If you are studying and going to meetings and all you hear is that armageddon is coming any minute; especially in the mid 80s- every magazine saying UN declares 1986 to be year or peace tied with the scripture of the fake peace and security cry and instant destruction (armageddon) being upon them, along with 1914 generation not dying off, etc., etc.,
Nope, no pressure here!!
well i made publisher a couple of weeks ago.
i shared that story on here.
but now iam getting pressured into being baptized in september.
"I do know want anybody telling me what my family and children can/cant do"
Buck:
How old are you?
If you get baptized you will have an organization telling you what you and your wife can/cannot do if you want to stay in the organization and remain in respectable standing; there will be times where you will have to allow yourself to be wronged and just shut your mouth and go along with it and "wait on Jehovah". You just became an unbaptised publisher; so how long of a time span from unbaptized publisher to being baptized (a few months?). You have no idea what you are getting yourself into. My mother has been associated with the witnesses most of her life and she is in her 60s; her real bros and sisters. Some would aux pioneer and one uncle is an elder, and one of her cousins is one of the directors of the WTS in Brooklyn and yet she thought she knew the difference between being an associate and actually being a baptized witness. She quickly found out and opted to never get baptized. I would give it time; at least a year. Go out in service, make all the meetings, comment during the meetings (with your own words and not repeat what is in the paragraph), join the ministry school (if unbaptized publishers still can) and live like you are actually baptized and see if you can do it the rest of your life before you take the plunge.
sorry no raised-a-dub responses here!
just ex-jw who joined as adults.
on another thread i pointed out the idea that most jw who join as adults, do so out of a need to compensate for or as a reaction to some bad experiences such as physical abuse, sexual abuse, a time of upheaval, or just a plain old poorly developed sense of self.
When I realized that they were not personally interested in me but only the fact that I was JW. Like one poster put it, they are interested in the JW, not the person. When I quit going to meetings, I never got visits from "the friends" on an informal basis. No calls except from elders who were doing it out of a sense of duty. Once in a blue moon one or two will show up while they were working in field service in the territory. Why embrace someone or something that will not embrace YOU, the real you.
That and the fact that time has proven to them to be wrong on many teachings and I got tired of living like armegeddon is coming tomorrow. They are not going to suffer the consequences I will have to endure by following their failed teachings.
sorry no raised-a-dub responses here!
just ex-jw who joined as adults.
on another thread i pointed out the idea that most jw who join as adults, do so out of a need to compensate for or as a reaction to some bad experiences such as physical abuse, sexual abuse, a time of upheaval, or just a plain old poorly developed sense of self.
I joined as a teenager, so I wasn't raised in it but I dont really consider myself an adult back then, even though I may have at the time.
To me it was hard to only associate exclusively with other JWs when you get the impression or feel like you are being judged by every little bit of action you do; how can you really open up youself to people like that? While I was in my teens I wasnt sexually active and I was just finding myself. I thought my gay feelings would eventually fade and it was just a phase but they really didn't. I never discussed them with anyone. I didn't trust anyone. I remember one assembly I went to years ago and I remember J. R. Brown being there and giving the talk and I remember him reading a letter supposedly coming from a ministerial servant who was a homosexual but not sexually active and J. R. Brown commented that he admired his determination, etc. They're probably ones like that in the congregation. I do remember the snide remarks from many of the "brothers and sisters" in regards to that part of the talk and thought, "where do these people come from who come into this congregation?" don't they realize that there are people like that all around them and they dont stop to think how remarks like that can hurt people? Where is the brotherly love and compression here? That kind of experience in itself would make me not ever open up to any JWs. In fact one of the people who said something rude was actually an elder who get me into "the troof" in the beginning. Knowing how he felt and many others, if I was to be completely honest, I know how I would be ostracized informally even if they didn't have anything against me to do it formally (disfellowshipping).
That was ONE thing. Another was the 1914 generation fiasco. They do not rule out any other idea that may come with what a scripture means. They only stick with a meaning that promotes their agenda, getting more converts and "placing" more literature.
One time I remember I use to pick up a brother for every meeting without fail; even let him stay with me temporarily when he needed to, took him out for breakfast sometimes before the meeting, etc. After he moved he wrote to keep up with everybody, except me. He was immature so I overlooked that.
Im not the same person as I was going into the organization and I dont think the organization is the same either. I have other reasons for not going back and many of them are similar to the other posts here.
okay "nine inch nails" is one vote.
i'm listening to alabama (i know, they're old, but just classic country music...) "down home".
(supposed to be studying for finals, i am studying, i really am.
you talked me into it.... listening to comfortably numb, which I am; Im high and waiting for my friend to pick me up and we are going clubbing, nice prep music, LOL
