hi friends,.
after some years i returned here out of curiosity, excuse my writing since my native language is spanish.
we (as a family) left the jw many over the un scandal... my children never got baptized.
CABALLO SENTADO:
I am glad you as a family got out of the Witness religion ages ago and your children are doing well. You all escaped untold pain and aggravation! What a happy story.
Yes, there is a better life outside the JW religion as most of us on the forum can attest to!đ
âjehovahâs witnesses told me i would die at 15 â so i didnât save for a pensionâ.
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BLONDIE:
Edit: I just read if a person is over 65 they donât need a disability to qualify for SSI. They just need to satisfy the financial questions to show their income is below whatever. However, if anybody is under 65 they must prove a disability.
Itâs still awful but I guess better than zero and maybe they can live in a relativeâs room?
But, seriously, if any intelligent JWs had a crystal ball and saw this predicament decades ago, they would have made other plans!
âjehovahâs witnesses told me i would die at 15 â so i didnât save for a pensionâ.
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HI BLONDIE:
I wrote that.đ¤Ł
But, yeah JWs figure there will be pennies from heaven.
I heard about those nervy articles about âfilling out paperwork to qualify for money from secular sourcesâ: Maybe some state Welfare programs??? I read that somebody in the U.S. CANNOT get SS unless they paid into it. Maybe if a spouse worked then the other or a dependent can get something.. The other option is IF somebody can prove disability they can apply for SSI.. Otherwise, it doesnât sound hopeful.
Bottom. line:: If somebody never worked in the U.S. it really sounds like they are screwed, frankly..They wouldnât qualify for much, if anythingâŚand how long would they wait to even be approved?? All this is, ultimately, the final tragedy of listening to the Witness religion when they were younger!đ
However, I do understand what you mean about global and political instability and that is a very scary thing for us all!
âjehovahâs witnesses told me i would die at 15 â so i didnât save for a pensionâ.
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UGOT2BEKIDDINGME1:
Yes, youâre right. I know some ex-JWs might say their experience helped them with public speaking - but thatâs just a small side benefit. The real truth is that JW-ism has No currency in the real world.
BLONDIE:
If you, with your wise preparation for retirement, are worried because of an insecure future, what about Witnesses who did little or nothing?? âŚI am Glad I never listened to suicidally stupid talk telling me to quit my secular job w/benefits & retirement and pursue poverty by pioneering/cleaning.. I was told to âhave faithâ.. This would be like jumping from a plane without a parachute. I was supposed to live with little to no money and not concern myself about my future.
But, the sensible Catholic girl in me rejected their nonsense and kept my job.. Iâm proud of being shunned.. And many of my JW critics are deceased. Some lived a cushy life.. You didnât see THEM doing without!
i was doing some research on the taxable status of money being gifted to coâs and travelling missionaries and was surprised with what i found.
i had assumed that it was not taxable income in australia.. it is taxable income in australia and itâs likely that the same rules apply in some other countries.. a registered religious institution only receives tax free status on donations because they have been endorsed by the australian tax office.
travelling overseas and missionaries are not in this category.. thereâs a tax ruling that goes into great detail.
BLONDIE:
I always wondered if people who worked for Witnesses were happier or better off.
Well now I know they were not better off - in fact quite the contrary. I am glad I always worked for secular employers.
And, again, those Witnesses who worked for themselves who did not declare all they made, hurt themselves in the long run.. Social Security payouts are based on what was reported! I guess this was a rude awakening for many JWs. Too many Witnesses had/have piss poor practical knowledge about finances and how the world works. Now, many are getting a crash course late in the game!
the current memorial invitation campaign got me thinking about the few times over the years that someone i invited to a meeting actually came: .
1) once when i was "new", i invited a friend to a sunday meeting.
neither of us drove, so the brother conducting my study picked us up.
LV101:
đ¤ŁThat was me who said that about Witness bias against converts!
Yes, the prim âStepford-type wivesâ, etc. that I encountered decades ago (who seemed in a 1950s timewarp) - all thought that about new converts, particularly if you were younger like I was.. Plus add the fact I wouldnât heed older Witnessesâ suggestions to quit my job to pioneer and clean toilets - horrors! I would only be accepted if they could control my life. So I was on the shit list early on.
But, I can laugh about all this now all these years later.
the current memorial invitation campaign got me thinking about the few times over the years that someone i invited to a meeting actually came: .
1) once when i was "new", i invited a friend to a sunday meeting.
neither of us drove, so the brother conducting my study picked us up.
UGOT2BEKIDDINGME1:
Yes, there is a very obvious class system in the Jehovahâs Witnesses.
You are correct that if you are not part of the âupper classâ or âIn crowdâ, you are treated badly. If youâre not pioneering but have a job, forget about it. They will hate you.. [I want to stress here because I havenât seen anybody comment on this in all my years on the forum:: but I observed there was a definite BIAS against people who were converts and not born-in Witnesses.]
Witnesses purport to want converts but I saw this attitude there when I was new... Donât know if it still is because I got Out ages ago. Maybe theyâre less âpickyâ now that they are losing peopleâŚThey were so arrogant with pushing people out - now they canât get anybody to stay!𤣠Serves them right.
i was doing some research on the taxable status of money being gifted to coâs and travelling missionaries and was surprised with what i found.
i had assumed that it was not taxable income in australia.. it is taxable income in australia and itâs likely that the same rules apply in some other countries.. a registered religious institution only receives tax free status on donations because they have been endorsed by the australian tax office.
travelling overseas and missionaries are not in this category.. thereâs a tax ruling that goes into great detail.
BLONDIE:
I had heard a similar story years back of a JW who worked and their employer supposedly did not take out taxes and pay the fed or state.
It didnât occur to me that this could have been a Witness employer⌠So I donât know.. When I hear about all the horror stories involving Witnesses (stories I know about and others I heard of), it is positively shameful and I donât know how they can call themselves moral people. They justify a lot of garbage with their convoluted beliefs.
I learned to stay away.
i scanned this article and i saw a theme throughout it.
when info like this shows up in the study wt, you can be sure the elders are doing it wrong and the wts hits directly on what it is.
older elders do it wrong and train by word and action the newer elders to do it wrong.
HOSER:
I know what you mean about unwarranted counsel.
Years ago, a not very bright JW (elder) said a lot of crap to me out of left field. Just for the record for anybody who doesnât know:: Jehovahâs Witnesses think they can say anything they want to a single woman. But, they would hesitate with a married woman.
All this encounter revealed to me was that some people in the hall were envious, I was apparently the target of gossip plus he had issues of his own.
Meanwhile, I was the single working woman with few friends, hardly invited anywhere!! I worked, minded my own business and made meetings as best I could.
But, apparently, some delusional people in the Witnesses believe fallacies that single people have âno problemsâ.. Some imagined that I âowedâ somebody something.. So, this ignorant guy spoke out of the abundance of his stupidity. But, I left him frustrated because he got nowhere!
i was doing some research on the taxable status of money being gifted to coâs and travelling missionaries and was surprised with what i found.
i had assumed that it was not taxable income in australia.. it is taxable income in australia and itâs likely that the same rules apply in some other countries.. a registered religious institution only receives tax free status on donations because they have been endorsed by the australian tax office.
travelling overseas and missionaries are not in this category.. thereâs a tax ruling that goes into great detail.
FEDUPJW & FULANO:
I observed when I was in the JWs an undercurrent of saying things were a âconscience matterâ with regard to an individual paying taxes.
Somebody like myself who worked at a regular job had taxes taken out of my paycheck by my employer. However, those people in the congregation who âworked for themselvesâ whether cleaning or other..were on the âhonor systemâ as to reporting taxes. The whispers I heard indicated that many were not so upright as to reporting how much money they made.
For those JWs who were not so honest about reporting their taxes all through the years: ..it has come back to bite them in the end with a pathetically low Social Security payment!!
