think41self
Bob says you are cool. Thanks.
BobsGirl
i have tried to tell my story several times.... and faltered.
with much kind encouragement, i will try one more time.
my story is not a short one ... please bear with me.
think41self
Bob says you are cool. Thanks.
BobsGirl
i have a friend that i met online over a year ago, and she is in need of others advise.
i told her my views but i think the more opinions she gets the better.. i asked her to come here and post but she went to the relationship forum here.
and also the personal experiance.
btt
BobsGirl
this was posted on msnbc.com under an article explaining why people jumped off the twin towers.. years ago, frederick says, a colleague of his set up an experiment where he subjected laboratory animals to excruciating pain.
they could go into another chamber to escape the pain, but if they did they would get their heads chopped off.
other lab animals were allowed to observe this, so they knew what would happen.
Fankie, Frankie ... tsk tsk tsk
They jumped because they were attacked by apostates. Apostates are terrorists
Terrorists, you know, Cowardly people who picket at assemblies with bags on their heads.
If I were an apostate like many of you, I would jump too.
That way my head can collapse into my ass like so many of you all already are.
What a good christian boy ... I'll bet your elders are so proud!
BobsGirl
i just got reinstated about 3 months ago and i am still trying to adjust.
i got baptized right before i turned 16, got disfellowshipped not even a year later.
then another year later i get reinstated.
I can certainly feel for you ... but I also know how freeing it is to know that there are people in my life who love and support me no matter how I think feel and believe. None of these people are biologically related to me ... but they are family. I did not find them however, until I found my way out of the organization. Ask yourself one question. Do you really believe that God is behind how you have been treated?? I don't think so. I have been more richly blessed in the 4 years since leaving than I was in the entire 28 that I spent in.
(((((Hugs))))
BobsGirl
does anyone have a copy of a jr brown tape.
the one i am looking for is the "if a kid is old enough to do bad, he's old enough to do good" talk.
it makes references to 4 year olds reading porn on the schoolbus and it's the same talk where he tells about the kid who left home a week after age 18 and ended up dead a week later in a bar fight over a woman.
Anyone????
BobsGirl
i have tried to tell my story several times.... and faltered.
with much kind encouragement, i will try one more time.
my story is not a short one ... please bear with me.
(((Mony)))). Love to you too!
BobsGirl
does anyone have a copy of a jr brown tape.
the one i am looking for is the "if a kid is old enough to do bad, he's old enough to do good" talk.
it makes references to 4 year olds reading porn on the schoolbus and it's the same talk where he tells about the kid who left home a week after age 18 and ended up dead a week later in a bar fight over a woman.
Does anyone have a copy of a JR Brown tape. The one I am looking for is the "if a kid is old enough to do bad, he's old enough to do good" talk. It makes references to 4 year olds reading porn on the schoolbus and it's the same talk where he tells about the kid who left home a week after age 18 and ended up dead a week later in a bar fight over a woman. If you have a copy of this tape .. or can get one .. please email me .... [email protected].
Grateful for any help....
BobsGirl
i have tried to tell my story several times.... and faltered.
with much kind encouragement, i will try one more time.
my story is not a short one ... please bear with me.
Thank you for your response. I was just about to erase it again.
BobsGirl
i have tried to tell my story several times.... and faltered.
with much kind encouragement, i will try one more time.
my story is not a short one ... please bear with me.
I have tried to tell my story several times…. and faltered. With much kind encouragement, I will try one more time. My story is not a short one … please bear with me.
I was the firstborn of the sixth generation of JW’s in my family. We had the kind of “Christian Heritage” that they spoke of in assembly parts. According to family legend, both of my maternal great- great-great-grandfathers were postmasters, one in Arkansas and one in West Virginia, when the Bible Students circulated a mass mailing to all of the US postmasters. They both accepted these new teachings and were fundamental in founding the first congregations in these two states. There were several of those 5 generations past ancestors of mine who claimed to be of the anointed. Of the later generations, too many to count have served in congregational positions that include Regular and Special Pioneers, Ministerial Servants, Elders, CO’s, PO’s, City Overseers. I have never attended, in all of my life, a District Assembly where one of my relatives was not delivering an address, participating in a drama or demonstration, or giving their experience. I myself served as a Regular Pioneer for 5 years and in a Spanish-speaking congregation for 2.
My maternal great-grandfather was a pedophile. He abused my grandmother, my mother, myself. Three of the six generations. He abused three generations of congregation children. He died in his 90’s, in good standing. He was never disfellowshipped, although I have been assured that he was counseled on occasion.
My mother was baptized when she was 9 years old, my father converted from the Pentecostal faith to become a JW when he was 16 years old. I was baptized when I was 14. The very first time I saw my father cry was when he performed my baptism.
I never had a choice. I was JW for generations before my birth. I was JW when I was two years old and my great-grandfather was fondling me. I was JW when I was seven and being molested by the son of a witness family that lived down the block. I was JW when I was 12 and my first Witness crush thought that it would be funny to slip his hand down my skirt in the backseat of the car while we were out in field service. I was JW when he would hit me. I was JW when I was informed, upon the reporting of these incidents to the elders, that I was being put on reproof for not having “screamed”. It was thier belief that because these abuses happened both before and after my baptism, that my failing to bring it to them again post dedication indicated my willing participation in the events. The fact that my father was a member of the body of elders and had already informed me that "if anything like that was happening, you must be doing something to encourage it". I was JW when these three men held me accountable for the "sins" of my past.
I had a choice when I was 22. I sought therapy. I had a choice when I confronted my family and the brothers about my great-grandfathers’ pedophilia and the behavior of certain brothers in the congregation. I had a choice when I became the first person in six generations of witnesses to walk away.
When these men made their choice, I made mine. Not out of spite, not to live the decadent lifestyle, but to be safe. I had been raped, beaten and emotionally assaulted to the point that I was convinced of two things. First, I knew that if I were to continue association with this organization I would die, probably by my own hand. Second, this was not the house of God.
I “drifted” for two years, finally deciding to move 2 hours North and start a new life. My life after leaving the JW’s has convinced me of many new things.
I believe that there is a God.
I do not believe that he had anything to do with what happened to me.
I believe that, like any perfect parent, he/she/it scooped me up in gentle arms and began gently kissing my wounds away with little blessings. I met a man that loves me, madly. I met a man that I could trust, lust after, and love, madly. Fortunately, for the both of us, he was the same man! I was a princess on my wedding day. I felt like a virgin. We have a perfect son. I finally understand what unconditional love means. I have dear friends. I own a home. I have not one, but two retirement accounts.
I am a very lucky woman. I have also lost more to this organization than I can say. I am now trying to decide whether to participate in the proposed lawsuits. Whatever my choice on this matter, I am facing the inevitable loss of contact with my family. I know that one-day they will choose this faith and their heritage over me. I know it, I just don’t want to see or hear it. Not yet.
BobsGirl
i have not been posting here for long and i am trying to get a "feel" for the makup of the group.
i thought about telling my story in the personal experiances area but chickened out.
i have noticed that the majority of the posters here are xjw's but there seem to be a few active jw's.
Great to meet you all ... and for my new buddies from the chatroom ...(((hugs and very chaste married woman kisses to you))). PS ... Bob says Hi.
BobsGirl