This is terrible. I feel like physically going to the next meeting in solidarity. But I could understand if JWs in general are frightened to go to the KH now. Perhaps the GB will make a worldwide call that meetings this weekend be held on Zoom and safety measure be quickly put in place for the next physical meetings. In reality this was probably a one off incident and attending the KH will not be more dangerous going forward, but it’s understandable if people don’t feel safe. It could have been worse if it was at an assembly or convention. I don’t know about guns at all but it sounds like a lot of people dead from the number of shots. Did the person have a lot of practice shooting somehow? If so I wonder where an exJW got that experience.
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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slimboyfat
According to the JW website 6 different congregations meet here: Croatian, Romanian, Twi, Tagalog, English and German. It was the German congregation that was meeting tonight.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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Swinger lol! You mean Swingle 😉
I think they do remove announcement after a period. For example, I don’t think the announcement about the new GB members, Fleegle and Winder is still up, is it? In this case it’s just a bit odd they removed it so quickly. Who knows what’s going on!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Me too, I agree with you. Have you tried the Christadelphians?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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“Physically in, mentally agnostic” - he’s started a whole new paradigm!
Personally I’d like to try PAMO, “physically agnostic, mentally out” just to see what it feels like 🙂
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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There was a suggestion earlier in the discussion that there was a back and forth, hint of disagreement between Morris and Lett in a recent broadcast (was it from the annual meeting?). I’d like to hear more about that, or a link to the videos. Can anyone point us there? In the absence of anything else, it might provide some clue about why Morris is no longer on the GB.
Personally I think the possibility of alcoholism and associated anti-social behaviour may be behind his removal. Because even on camera he shows some signs of lack of control in what he says and how he says it. He also shows some indications of trauma from his time in Vietnam that would be consistent with alcohol addiction or dependence. I can easily imagine that he would be a difficult person to deal with in meetings. If that was partly fuelled by alcohol then that would give the other GB members justification for warning and then removing him. I acknowledge this is speculation and I don’t claim otherwise, just that it’s a plausible explanation that fits with what we know about Morris.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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slimboyfat
Two weeks on and still no real information on what happened. Strange!
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"Mankind's Search for God" book
by My Name is of No Consequence inthis book was published around 1990, but was never studied (to my knowledge).
does anyone know the reason why?.
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I don’t think it was studied at the book study either. Parts of it were used in service meeting items which may explain why some copies have underlining and notes.
If the book was used at Gilead and used as evidence of a balanced religious education that makes sense. It was also part of the move away from the more belligerent engagements with other religions to a more ‘respectful’ disagreement.
In my memory some JWs were proud of the book and liked to use it in the ministry or to place in libraries or use with school teachers and so on because it has a more pleasant tone as well as a good layout and design. It was one of the last books to be published while they were still charging for the literature, so it was a quality haptic hardcover.
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Prediction of Watchtower in a Few Years
by Foolednomore inkingdom halls will be the thing of the past.. conventions (mini assembly halls will still be going on) but will charge for attending and parking and always a donation.
elders will play a much smaller role since csa.
cart preaching will replace door to door.
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I am sorry to tell you Phizzy, but I know many churches that have declined far more than JWs and have never reached a point of saying “can this be the right religion”, or “is it worth it”, and “time to throw in the towel”. Well on an individual level I am sure some members do think that - and that’s part of the reason for the decline! But it never seems to reach a tipping point where there is a collective reckoning as such.
Churches that have experienced severe decline in recent years where I have some direct knowledge include Methodists, Church of Scotland, Mormons, Christadelphians, Unitarians, Baptists, Brethren, Swedenborgians, Christian Scientists, New Apostolic Church. I’m probably forgetting some. Some of these churches have lost half their members, or more, over the past 20 years. Yet until there is literally no one left to physically turn the light on and off (this happened with the Swedenborgians who closed in Scotland with 4 members remianing, down from 800 in the 1950s) there simply doesn’t seem to be a level of decline where a religious group will throw in the towel early. They just struggle on and readjust to the shrinking numbers as best they can until there is no one left.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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I watched the start of the video, the first ten minutes, and he keeps on saying he either won’t lie to JWs at the Kingdom Hall about who he is, or that he doesn’t want to lie about who he is. He can’t quite make up his mind whether he intends to lie or not, but he wants his audience to know that he really doesn’t like the idea of lying about who he is in any case.
But isn’t this a bit odd. He has admitted to visiting sex workers behind his wife’s back every couple months. This must have involved dozens, or hundreds of lies, week in, week out, to his wife, their family, and probably others, for years, about where he was going, and what he was doing. Why does he care so much about lying to strangers on one occasion when he is practised at lying repeatedly to his closest family about something more important?
Maybe that’s stating the obvious to the point of redundancy, but it just grates for a known liar to pretend as if lying is of any consequence to them. He can’t really mean any of it, I guess it’s all a performance for the channel.