Maybe he’ll give up soon. It must be pretty miserable making videos on your own, with nobody willing work with you, only getting half the money you used to get, and continuing to lose support every day. I get the sense he resents making videos on topics he’s not really interested in any longer, for people he doesn’t really like. It would be pretty hard for him to push through that, especially when he thinks he’s entitled to the amount of money he used to get. The quality will go down, his enthusiasm with go down, and his support will go down, in a reenforcing spiral.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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That’s a odd reading, because the whole point of Revelation 7 seems to be that the great crowd are those who survive through the great tribulation. But it does fit with a pattern of Watchtower interpretations along the lines of “the text says x, but how do we know the text doesn’t really mean x”.
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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Prospective in the sense that, if the Great Tribulation were to occur today, they are among those who hope to be judged worthy to be among the Great Crowd. In this sense they are defined in contrast to prospective members of the 144,000 and against those non believers who have no conception of being saved by Jehovah at all.
Non anointed believers in 1935 were “prospective members” of the Great Crowd in that that was their hope, just as non anointed believers today share that hope. Whether any “prospective members” of the Great Crowd alive today will live to become part of the actual Great Crowd of prophecy remains to be seen.
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by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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Thanks TD. When carefully explaining the position of non anointed JWs, Watchtower has used the term “prospective members” of the great crowd, meaning that non anointed believers in 1935, and since, are “in line” to be part of the great crowd. In that sense Jehovah’s Witnesses can still say that non anointed believers in 1935, as today, were “prospective members” of the “great crowd”. But who finally make up the “great crowd” will only be determined by who is alive and faithful at the end of the Great Tribulation.
“Let Your Kingdom Come”, said
You may enjoy a grand privilege today in thus ‘rendering sacred service day and night before the throne of God.’ At the same time you place yourself in line to be one of the “great crowd” that will inherit everlasting life on an earth made glorious. (Revelation 7:9-17) But first the Kingdom must “come” to fight Armageddon’s war! What will Armageddon mean for mankind and our earth?
And the Proclaimers book
Particularly beginning in the 1930’s, prospective members of the “great multitude,” or “great crowd” of other sheep, began to manifest themselves. (Rev. 7:9, 10, KJ; John 10:16) These were at that time referred to as Jonadabs.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Ha! Great. I wish I knew how to make those videos.
Hail the Lloydocracy ever decreasing
Wondrous contraction is now taking place
News of his scandal now spreads without ceasing
By those who balk at his bare faced disgrace
Boldly warn those who are Lloyd’s name defaming
Tell all such men litigation is nigh
And all the while zealously keep proclaiming
New YouTube channels to meek ones who sigh
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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I cheers me us to see the patrons drop each day. Down to 635 now.
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Governing body member has nervous breakdown due to bethel workload
by Witness 007 inkarl klien life story from the watchtower.. "president rutherford had repeated occasions to reprove me for breaking some rule.
(under president knorr 1950) brother knorr invited me to join the writing department...when i told him it did not matter where i served he reproved me..saying when an added privilege is offered we should be eager to accept it...my attitude was due to my health which has always been a problem.
knorr was older we were like brothers with the older brother knorr prone to expressing inpatients to my short comings.
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Marbles it is the same book. Escape from Freedom is the US title and The Fear of Freedom is the UK title. Yes it is about the attraction of totalitarian systems that absolve people from making difficult choices themselves.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Way back when he first declared his “mental health crisis”, as a cover for abandoning his family and holidaying Thailand, he claimed that he was receiving therapy, but it’s hard to see how he fit it in, what with disappearing to Thailand straight away. Did he ever actually see a therapist? I don’t want to be too naïve here in asking whether he actually told the truth about something. But people with narcissistic personality disorder rarely do attend therapy, because they don’t truly believe there is anything wrong with them. I just wonder if he actually went through with any kind of therapy or it was lies all the way. I guess we’ll never find out because who would know and can be believed? Not him.
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How many of you remember the "Pioneer Shuffle " and the special "time reporting" of pioneers?
by Foolednomore ini started pioneering in my late teens an remember how slow pioneers would walk to the doors while out in circus.
also, they would not really talk to anybody at all.
they would start their time as soon as they got dressed an out the door, while us regular shucks started our time at the first door we knocked at.
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And the “pioneer knock” - knock the door gently so the householder doesn’t hear, and sneak away from the door before they notice you.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Another charming detail to come out. After getting caught visiting sex workers, he got his wife to agree “a non monogamous relationship”, but she changed her mind after one day’s reflection. In typical fashion he was outraged that she changed her mind and it was in this victimhood mentality that he declared a mental health crisis, abandoned his wife and daughters at Christmas, and flew to Thailand to get to know the locals. What a truly horrible person—worse than I ever imagined. No wonder his supporters are abandoning him in droves.