freemasons (aka: masons) are under the control of satan and russell was there with them...
now we come to russell's part.
russell was a freemason.
mnb, you are now in line with a group of conspiracy "theorists" along with myself, "truth about the truth" and "Gofl" prepare to be demonized and ridiculed by those in denial.
See some of the other posts regarding Russell and his blatant Knights Templar affifiliation
Charles Russell, a Jewish Knights Templar mason http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/80965/1.ashx
modalistic monarchianism, also known as modalism, is the view that god variously manifested himself as the father (primarily in the old testament), other times as the son (primarily from jesus?
conception to his ascension), and other times as the holy spirit (primarily after jesus?
ascension into heaven).
Well I do not have a problem with the trinitarian view if they admit they employ a polytheist view of God. Mormons are trinitarians who admit to being polytheists. Saying that God is 3 in 1 is really a denial. It is still polytheism. Modalism can not be called polytheist since there is only one person in the Godhead.
modalistic monarchianism, also known as modalism, is the view that god variously manifested himself as the father (primarily in the old testament), other times as the son (primarily from jesus?
conception to his ascension), and other times as the holy spirit (primarily after jesus?
ascension into heaven).
Little mason
Resorting to big and colourful fonts does not make your point right!
It copy and pasted that way genius. I didnt do it that way on purpose. And some of these things are copy and pasted from my own website. lol
modalistic monarchianism, also known as modalism, is the view that god variously manifested himself as the father (primarily in the old testament), other times as the son (primarily from jesus?
conception to his ascension), and other times as the holy spirit (primarily after jesus?
ascension into heaven).
leolai, I believe God became Jesus at the incarnation and not prior too, and that God became a man permanenty thereafter. That is how much he loves us. That is not to say that God did not manifest in other forms prior to the incarnation. Angel of the Lord was worshipped and wrestled with men. Angel of the Lord did not rebuke when He was worshipped by Sarah for example.
Did Jesus pray to Himself ? No, not when we understand that Jesus was both God and man. In His deity Jesus did not pray, for God does not need to pray to anyone. As a man, Jesus prayed to God, not to his humanity (7). He did not pray to Himself as humanity, but to the one true God, to the same God who dwelled in His humanity and who also inhabits the universe. No further explanation is given, and none is needed. Does Jesus pray now since his exaltation ? The answer is no. He prayed in the days of His flesh (Hebrews 5:7). The work of the mediation was finished through His death on the cross at Calvary (Hebrews 9:14-15). There is no more sacrifice for sins, for once and for all time His blood was shed for the remission of sins (Hebrews 10:12
modalistic monarchianism, also known as modalism, is the view that god variously manifested himself as the father (primarily in the old testament), other times as the son (primarily from jesus?
conception to his ascension), and other times as the holy spirit (primarily after jesus?
ascension into heaven).
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM he, ye shall die in your sins.
modalistic monarchianism, also known as modalism, is the view that god variously manifested himself as the father (primarily in the old testament), other times as the son (primarily from jesus?
conception to his ascension), and other times as the holy spirit (primarily after jesus?
ascension into heaven).
Satanus said:
ianone the fetus+ianone the baby+
ianone the child+
ianone the adolescent=
how many ianones in total?
Yes I am one , very good. Notice that ianone the fetus, is not a seperate person from ianone the adolescent or any of the other ianones?
modalistic monarchianism, also known as modalism, is the view that god variously manifested himself as the father (primarily in the old testament), other times as the son (primarily from jesus?
conception to his ascension), and other times as the holy spirit (primarily after jesus?
ascension into heaven).
Look this isnt that complex. God is one. not three, not three in one, but ONE.
JESUS IS ONE GOD, ONE PERSON, ONE SAVIOUR, ONE MASTER, ONE SHEPHERD, ONE FATHER, ONE HOLY ONE, ONE CREATOR, ONE COVENANT, ONE SACRIFICE
modalistic monarchianism, also known as modalism, is the view that god variously manifested himself as the father (primarily in the old testament), other times as the son (primarily from jesus?
conception to his ascension), and other times as the holy spirit (primarily after jesus?
ascension into heaven).
Well , I maintain what scripture says;
Joh 8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
| Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one (One in singularity, not one in unity) 2Ki 19:22 Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed? and against whom hast thou exalted thy voice, and lifted up thine eyes on high? even against the Holy One of Israel. Ps 71:22 I will also praise thee with the psaltery, even thy truth, O my God: unto thee will I sing with the harp, O thou Holy One of Israel. Isa 28:2 Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one , which as a tempest of hail and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters overflowing, shall cast down to the earth with the hand. Isa 1:24 Therefore saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts, the mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies: Isa 30:29 Ye shall have a song, as in the night when a holy solemnity is kept; and gladness of heart, as when one goeth with a pipe to come into the mountain of the LORD, to the mighty One of Israel. I AM THE MIGHTY ONE Ge 49:24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:) Ps 132:2 How he sware unto the LORD, and vowed unto the mighty God of Jacob; A GREAT ONE Isa 19:20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one , and he shall deliver them . I AM THE GREAT GOD Ps 95:3 For the LORD is a great God , and a great King above all gods. I AM THE MOST HIGH 2Sa 22:14 The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice. THERE IS NONE BESIDE ME Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me ; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. I AM ALONE Job 9:8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea. Ps 136:4 To him who alone doeth great wonders: for his mercy endureth for ever. Lu 5:21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone? BY MYSELF
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Isa 45:5 I am the LORD , and there is none else, there is no God beside me : I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: ONE GOD Mr 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God ; and there is none other but he: 1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God , the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
ONE MASTER Mt 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. |
modalistic monarchianism, also known as modalism, is the view that god variously manifested himself as the father (primarily in the old testament), other times as the son (primarily from jesus?
conception to his ascension), and other times as the holy spirit (primarily after jesus?
ascension into heaven).
Let me simplify it:
Father (God in His unlimited form/manifestation) Son (God in His limited form/manifestation)
Probably the best question that will stump a trinitarian is "who was Jesus praying to if He is God?"
The Modalists are in a better position to answer this seeing as they are truly monotheists.
If the Son is God in a limited role, and if God became a genuine human being, he would need to have all the needs that any average human being has, INCLUDING the neccesity for prayer.
If God becomes a man and does not need to pray, than He is almost cheating His own humanity.
One could argue that God's humanity (as His human (SON) manifestation) was praying to the Father (His unlimited manifestation)
Try to wrap your mind around this as technical as this sounds.
I think the greater question is: by God as a man, praying to the Father, was it merely a charade of some sorts or is there something deeper we can not yet understand?
modalistic monarchianism, also known as modalism, is the view that god variously manifested himself as the father (primarily in the old testament), other times as the son (primarily from jesus?
conception to his ascension), and other times as the holy spirit (primarily after jesus?
ascension into heaven).
If God the Son could be omnipresent as Spirit, and limited in the incarnation simultaneously, without being two persons, why can't the Father become a man, and yet still exist beyond the incarnation, and not be two persons? This isn't a hard concept to grapple with. You pointed out that the O difficulty arises in explaining why, if the God in Jesus is the Father, does Jesus pray to the Father. If Jesus is the Father, why pray to the Father? I believe the answer has to do with the kenosis (Philippians 2:6-11), when God willingly set aside the exercise of the divine prerogatives to take up a human existence, operating within the confines of an ordinary man. The deity of the Father was in Jesus, but latent in Him. In the incarnation, Jesus is distinct from the Father, not in His deity, but in His humanity. In the incarnation, Jesus must be spoken of as being distinct from the Father, because the Father is God beyond a human existence, while Jesus is God in a human existence.
