I see you've moved on to the evolution argument without providing any proof for your earlier statements. I guess you could call that hit and run evangelism.
sorry, that's probably my fault.
doogie
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Jesus is Jehovah
by hibiscusfire inthe bible shows that jesus is jehovah and there are verses to prove this.
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Jesus is Jehovah
by hibiscusfire inthe bible shows that jesus is jehovah and there are verses to prove this.
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doogie
sorry bud, but evolution does not address the initial cause of life, only the observed changes in life forms over time as demonstrated in the fossil record.
we could discuss all day long what is (or is not) the initial cause of life and we'd never say one thing about evolutionary theory. first, please, learn what evolution is (and is not).
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Jesus is Jehovah
by hibiscusfire inthe bible shows that jesus is jehovah and there are verses to prove this.
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doogie
Do you think we came from monkeys then?
i can't speak for undercover, but i would suggest you read up on evolution first and then i'm sure there are many here that would love to discuss this subject with you.
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Did our ancestors really live for hundreds of years?
by pennycandy infor all you scientific brains out there .
.. the bible claims lifespans of over 900 years.
what does science say about this?.
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doogie
LHG:
I always wondered about this. But what I could not really swallow was that the earth's population became what it is today (several billion) over 6000 years from only two people (then 8 after the flood).
People would have had to live very very long. Men would have had to father over 100 children and women would have had to bear several dozen (not to mention multiple births).shoot...you should check out "Is It God's Word?" by Joseph Wheless (try google. you can read it for free online). he talks about this very thing (especially regarding how much abraham and the israelites would have had to...well, you know...to establish the nation of israel. his conclusion was that every woman would have to, on average, produce something like one baby every 4 or 5 months.)
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Did our ancestors really live for hundreds of years?
by pennycandy infor all you scientific brains out there .
.. the bible claims lifespans of over 900 years.
what does science say about this?.
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doogie
I don't know my bible that well, but if a person could have lived 900 years, wouldn't it be written somewhere in the bible that a person could be talking to his great great great great great grandfather or something like that.
at least one of the unbelievably long life spans listed in the bible is self contradictory. (to reach his age, methusaleh would have had to live through the flood although he was not on the ark)
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Did our ancestors really live for hundreds of years?
by pennycandy infor all you scientific brains out there .
.. the bible claims lifespans of over 900 years.
what does science say about this?.
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doogie
i tried to cut and paste from the last article (it's not letting me and i'm easily frustrated), but i think it does a good job of acknowledging difficulties in determining age of bones (edited to add: of course, not to be confused with 'date of bones'). even though it states that some scientists feel that the avg. ages are underestimated, 20-30 years is a far cry from 700-900 years.
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Did our ancestors really live for hundreds of years?
by pennycandy infor all you scientific brains out there .
.. the bible claims lifespans of over 900 years.
what does science say about this?.
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doogie
this seems to be a pretty comprehensive study:
Ageing Through The Ages
http://mac-huwis.lboro.ac.uk/ASL/Publications/PDFs/Ageing%20through%20the%20Ages.pdf
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Did our ancestors really live for hundreds of years?
by pennycandy infor all you scientific brains out there .
.. the bible claims lifespans of over 900 years.
what does science say about this?.
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Will humanity EVER outgrow God?
by nicolaou infirstly let me say that i am not trying to offend believers - i was one for most of my life.
nor is this a discussion about whether god/religion is a 'good' or 'bad' thing, that argument will rage forever.
what i'm asking is really a simple question;.
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Doogie - did you listen to what I was saying - I see a trend - in my life in my real world experience . That isn't sitting on some convenient internet site for me to spool out to you.
Since you seem to want to play let me give you some sites that offer some statistical points - you could have found these - though I don't see how they would affect what my or your personal experience is.
jeez, man. calm down. i'm just trying to help you out here. no one, and i mean NO ONE will take your arguments seriously if all you do is make assertions without backing them up.
and yes, you're right i could've found those sites, thank you for not making me search out references for your assertions. that is very kind.
the whole point of surveys and statistics is that yours and my own personal experiences are completely subjective and in no way representative of the whole. that's why stats are necessary when making broad claims.
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Will humanity EVER outgrow God?
by nicolaou infirstly let me say that i am not trying to offend believers - i was one for most of my life.
nor is this a discussion about whether god/religion is a 'good' or 'bad' thing, that argument will rage forever.
what i'm asking is really a simple question;.
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doogie
1 - less love for neighbours - far more isolation from each other.
2 - reliance on debt as a life style choice coupled with reduction in work ethic amongst many
3 - the rise of the irresponsible - it wasn't my fault culture.
4 - the rise of it was your fault culture - where's my lawyer
5 - lack of care about family - so few are even bothered by the idea of family break up as its so normal - until it happens to them.
6 - Increasing numbers of kids with multiple transient fathers and substitute dads (latest cohabiting partner)references, please.
otherwise it's like saying that because its dark at night and also there are more murders at night, murders cause darkness. besides the fact that murders can't be proven to directly affect luminance (similar to saying 'no religion causes nos. 1-6'), if you can't prove your assertion that more murders actually DO occur at night it renders your argument even more feeble.