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Does Tithing at Church Count as a Charitable Donation?
by OrphanCrow init has been interesting to see the shift in financial strategies that the wts is implementing recently.
from reading recent threads, it appears like 'they' are adopting a tithing donation system, similar to what is practised in "those wicked churches of christendoom".
i am curious as to who it is that stands to benefit the most tax wise in this recent shift.
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OrphanCrow
It has been interesting to see the shift in financial strategies that the WTS is implementing recently. From reading recent threads, it appears like 'They' are adopting a tithing donation system, similar to what is practised in "those wicked churches of Christendoom".
I am curious as to who it is that stands to benefit the most tax wise in this recent shift. Whether it is the WTs themselves, or if this new arrangement will benefit some of the well-heeled JWs who flutter around in the shadows of the wings of the Great Ones.
Personally, I abhor tax law, and get angry whenever I am forced to wade through it. However, it is a necessary evil at times.
From the article Does Tithing at Church Count as a Charitable Donation?:
Federal law allows you to enjoy a tax break in the form of a deduction for charitable contributions, including donations of goods or money. You can claim the deduction for one-time donations or if you regularly tithe part of your income to your church. The Internal Revenue Service has specific rules governing deductions for charitable donations and you need to understand how they work in order to maximize your potential tax benefit.
With the new arrangements in how money is to be 'donated' to the WTS, does that mean that the Kingdom Halls will have to be responsible for handing out tax receipts? Or, do they do that already?
Does anyone on this forum claim tax deductions for the money they send to the WTS? Or for donated goods and services?
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August 2015 WT - Let's Review the BS Children
by InjusticeSystem infound these gems in this edition:.
- keep in expectation!- prepare now for life in the new worldthe passing of time should not cause us to lose hope thatkingdom blessings will be realized.
there are solid reasonsto keep our scriptural expectations alive.
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Of course, our circumstances may change with the passing of time. For instance, some members of the Bethel family in the United States have been reassigned to the field and are now enjoying abundant blessings in other forms of the full-time ministry. Because of advancing age or other factors, others who were in the traveling work have now received special pioneer assignments.
That is an intriguing thought that was expressed so obliquely. Is the WTS alluding that there are 'special' ones who got 'special' placements? Maybe somewhere warm and sunny?
Are there 'retired' ones who got to retire in tropical climates? Maybe working in translation offices, not doing ministry but instead "enjoying abundant blessings" inside first world buildings situated in third world countries?
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How Soon Will We See 9-Year-Olds in Committee Meetings?
by TTATTelder inthat teddy bear baptism video was shocking.. if you haven't seen it yet.
check it out on this thread:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/271170002/on-subject-child-baptism-video.
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That's what bothers me the most. I thought about mentioning it in the OP. What happens when a baptized 8 year old gets molested? Now you have an arshole adult brother in the back room denying the charge and accusing the baptized child of slander.
Not only that, but the baptized child will be considered a 'penitent' and could be bound by the same rules of confidentiality as the 'clergy'. In some states, the penitent is not compelled to reveal what is said in a 'priest-penitent' communication.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priest%E2%80%93penitent_privilege
The statutes vary from state to state, however,...
In twenty-five states, the clergyman-communicant statutory privilege does not clearly indicate who holds the privilege. In seventeen states, the penitent's right to hold the privilege is clearly stated. In only six states, both a penitent and a member of the clergy are expressly allowed by the statute to hold the privilege.
The baptizing of children is going to muddy the waters in child abuse cases when it comes to the revealing of 'confidential' information'.
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Question Box: Should JW's use the Internet to witness to people abroad?
by cappytan ini hadn't seen this posted here yet.. source via wifibandit on exjw subreddit.. what are your thoughts/comments on this?.
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Oubilette: How could they be "charged" for anything individuals do on the internet?
Can you explain how that make work? How could that cause them any problems?I have been giving your questions some thought.
Maybe what is happening is that the WTS is getting the squeeze from the IRS concerning their activities in countries that have laws against preaching. Who knows, maybe the IRS is the tool that keeps 'extremist' religions in line by limiting their activities in other countries. The Patriot Act and all that...I think that the WTS could be under pressure to limit their international activities. Especially the internet transmissions by their members - all online communication can be tracked so easily.
The WTS' doctrine and rules can always be traced to politics and law. Always. Politics and law is what makes money go around. And money is what makes the WTS go around.
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On the subject of Child Baptism - Video
by cappytan inso, the latest "kids" kingdom melody video is out.. here are some screenshots:.
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yep, that's right, they showed a kid with a teddy bear getting baptized.. here's the video in full for documentation, if you can stomach it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ellrtyj_maq.
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In 1941, the Watchtower machine had more up their sleeve than just recruiting children to sell literature. Those "Children of the King" that were baptized were recruited to challenge First Amendment rights. I wonder what the WTS is up to this time.
I think I got it. Maybe...
I think that the WTS is needing to get the children to declare their membership into the church. That way, whatever a child tells the elders is protected under clergy confidentiality. In other words, the elders don't have to reveal what a child who has been baptized tells them in testimony during judicial hearings. The clergy confidentiality only applies to church members.
I think that the WTS is trying to cover their ass in potential future child abuse cases.
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On the subject of Child Baptism - Video
by cappytan inso, the latest "kids" kingdom melody video is out.. here are some screenshots:.
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yep, that's right, they showed a kid with a teddy bear getting baptized.. here's the video in full for documentation, if you can stomach it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ellrtyj_maq.
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Young baptisms were common in my mother's generation of JWs.
So many of you are "appalled" and sickened by this push to get children baptized. I am not.
My mother was baptized when she was 6 years old, in 1939. She described it to me recently. She said that "...there were brothers from the Society sent out all across Canada to baptize everybody because we thought Armageddon was happening. I didn't know what I was doing. I just knew that it made Mum and Dad happy. Lots of kids got baptized. The parents were scared."
Historically, the push for child baptism is not new - it occurred in 1941 with the Children of the King conventions held that summer. The convention report said that children as young as six years old were baptized at the St. Louis convention:
There have been thousands of children at other Watchtower assemblies, but never before were 15,000, who had been previously registered, seated entirely by themselves in the main portion of one of the world's greatest auditoriums. Never before were more than 1,300 children immersed at one time.
In 1941, the Watchtower machine had more up their sleeve than just recruiting children to sell literature. Those "Children of the King" that were baptized were recruited to challenge First Amendment rights. I wonder what the WTS is up to this time. -
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Question Box: Should JW's use the Internet to witness to people abroad?
by cappytan ini hadn't seen this posted here yet.. source via wifibandit on exjw subreddit.. what are your thoughts/comments on this?.
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Well, maybe 'they'/WTS can't be charged...but I still say it is a legal issue. Almost everything the WTS does is connected to legal concerns.
Can you explain how that make work? How could that cause them any problems?
I dunno how it would work. I am not 'up' on all the internet laws. I don't know how other countries enforce bans against preaching.
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Question Box: Should JW's use the Internet to witness to people abroad?
by cappytan ini hadn't seen this posted here yet.. source via wifibandit on exjw subreddit.. what are your thoughts/comments on this?.
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Furthermore, in lands where the Kingdom work is restricted or under ban, correspondence might be monitored by the authorities. Such communication could endanger the local brothers and sisters. Therefore, publishers should not go online to seek out people from another country with whom to share the good news.
It's a legal issue.
The WTS doesn't want to get charged for preaching in countries where it is banned.