$4000 a day to keep the child abuse records secret is lot of money to the average JW. ( And why would WTBTS ever think it would be a good idea to make a recorded data base of all of their cover-ups? )
It could make one hesitate to put money in the contribution box if they know it's 'hush money'.
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49Contempt of court, case in San Diego county really disgusts me!
by Crazyguy inthis case has to be talked about by ever awake jw every apostate everyone.
this case because they refuse to hand over documents the court already knows they have because they handed them over before but heavily redacted, is the icing on the cake!
this case shows thier evil plain and simple.
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What a fader can say to a sleepy witness?
by Darkknight757 ini have a question.
yesterday while the wife and i were hitting garage sales we seen a house selling tools.
this house happened to be a witness couple getting rid of some old stuff.
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kairos
My wife is turning 70 this year. Born-in JW.
I'm 21 years younger than her, we're approaching our 20th wedding anniversary this year. I'm not sure we're going to make it.
All she thinks about is the cult.
She's too old to change.
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Tough spot to be in.
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Guess who is getting announced as no longer being a JW
by atacrossroads innot me surprisingly.
i thought i would be the one to go first.
this coming week my hubby is being announced as no longer being a jw.
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kairos
This is the simplest way to handle it.
Congrats
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At a regional convention today....
by Nobodyspecial init really stands out to me just how phoney the bonds of forced brotherhood are.
the smiles are paper thin when they see each other in hotels.
the laughs forced.
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I vividly remember my last circuit assembly, as it was the loneliest I have ever felt.
Yes, I agree. My last one was the famous 2013 'mentally diseased apostates' RC.
I couldn't stand to speak to anyone. I stayed in my seat each day during lunch and took a nap. Walking the endless circular corridors of the Cow Palace, pretending we all are part of a 'loving brotherhood' was out of the question.
This ridiculous elder comes up to me, asking how I'm doing and what not. My apathy was very obvious. He said he would come and visit.
( he did, about six months later ).Looking back, most of the elders that took an 'interest' in me were from other local congregations that I had attended in Napa. ( I've attended them all ).
They just left me, confused that I wasn't interested anymore. I'm sure my declaring that I felt as if I had wasted the last 25 years of my life troubling as well.
One of my final meetings that I attended in my own KH, this one 'concerned elder' asked how I was. I looked him straight in the eye and said: " I'd rather not be here, to be perfectly honest with you".
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One thing I constantly reflect on to settle the pain of the shunning, is to realize that apart from a small handful of individuals, of the over 500 JWs I've known by name, since 1988, most were never my friends.
They've always been strangers. It's a matter of perspective.
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The last video in the 2016 convention...
by problemaddict 2 in...is an epic triumph is emotional manipulation.
bringing together all of the stories they told thus far and placing them int he "new world" complete with the little boy who was killed in a car accident coming back from the dead.. i have a good friend who is stuck in with family and plays the role.
he said everyone was crying, and the people next to him rated the videos by how many tissues they needed to dry their eyes.
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My wife will be seeing this at her RC today. In about 3.25 hours from now...
So sad they use these videos to manipulate our still-in loved ones.
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At a regional convention today....
by Nobodyspecial init really stands out to me just how phoney the bonds of forced brotherhood are.
the smiles are paper thin when they see each other in hotels.
the laughs forced.
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kairos
My wife is on the way home from the Cow Palace in SF.
She'll be there the next two days, as well.
I haven't attended since 2013. So glad to be out.
I have know idea what to expect from her when I see her tonight.
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The problem with shunning
by poopie inshunning is unjust because say the problem is with 2 people let's say it's fraud against another person.
now 8 million people are brought into the problem by also shunning the one person that the 8 million must also shun do you see how stupid that is..
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kairos
Yes, it's so localized.
Any of us could move to a new area and request a bible study on JWscatOrg. We could be baptized in less than a year and totally infiltrate.
That would be a bit much, and I'll never do it, but really, they never looked at my I.D. Just pretend all the way through and make a mockery of the entire thing after being appointed an eldurr.
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ARC - where to start?
by thereishope ini'm hoping for help in finding a starting point, somewhere to direct my husband.
i brought up a little bit about the arc spoken of so widely here on the forum.
i just gave him a bit of a hint a few days ago, and he wanted to hear nothing of it - the old you can't believe everything you read.
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The actual case study from the AUS Government?:
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.aspxFound it on Google.
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Contained on the AUS Govt site are all of the transcripts, admitted evidence including the "Shepherd the Flock" elder's book as well as the testimony of Geoffrey Jackson, himself.
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Watchtower African Editions
by universitystudent inthat’s my first post here.
i came to this forum site in hope to find an archive of the watchtower magazine including all the african editions.
i’m currently a student in history and religious studies at the university of fribourg, switzerland.
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Welcome.
I hope your research gets the results you seek.
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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents
by Simon injudge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.
imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.
by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.
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kairos
The bunker videos make so much more sense, now.
It's the GB in the bunker, not everyday JWs.
It's the GB and WTBTS who the courts are going after.
Persecution my ass! They just got caught, that's all.