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  England v Ukraine

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  so nice to see thousands upon thousands of fighting-age ukrainian men managed to escape the war and reach wembley to support their national football team yesterday.

  things must be improving, eh?.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  The Ukrainian war and events surrounding it are quite complex, and worthy of discussion.

  Do you have anything of value to add to this discussion, beyond telling people to fuck off?
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  England v Ukraine

  by BoogerMan in

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  so nice to see thousands upon thousands of fighting-age ukrainian men managed to escape the war and reach wembley to support their national football team yesterday.

  things must be improving, eh?.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  @peacefulpete - disgraceful slurs in your last post.

  For a start, it's not just the right that don't go along with the mainstream media's official narrative, there are left-wingers such as Corbyn and Diane Abbot, and even our very own SlimBoyFat, who I'm guessing is of the left - these people also refuse to swallow Western propaganda. It doesn't necessarily mean they, or me, are pro-Russian.

  If you look at my posts, all I've ever really said is 'I want this war to stop and I want peace as soon as possible' <--- this would be a fair summary of my comments.
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  England v Ukraine

  by BoogerMan in

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  so nice to see thousands upon thousands of fighting-age ukrainian men managed to escape the war and reach wembley to support their national football team yesterday.

  things must be improving, eh?.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  That last comment wasn't what you said originally.

  You originally said 'I can't believe that standing up to aggressors ... is prolonging the war'.

  That was not my point. My point, again, is this: The West has given lots of military hardware to Ukraine, and this has prolonged the war.

  How difficult is this to understand?
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  England v Ukraine

  by BoogerMan in

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  so nice to see thousands upon thousands of fighting-age ukrainian men managed to escape the war and reach wembley to support their national football team yesterday.

  things must be improving, eh?.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  @Corney - I suggest you read through this thread again because you've missed the point.

  The point is this: the West sending Ukraine military hardware has prolonged the war.

  You either want peace as soon as possible or you want Ukraine to win the war.

  But you cannot have both.
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  England v Ukraine

  by BoogerMan in

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  so nice to see thousands upon thousands of fighting-age ukrainian men managed to escape the war and reach wembley to support their national football team yesterday.

  things must be improving, eh?.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  @peacefulpete

  No, you haven't been very useful here.

  Ukrainian national pride is just one aspect to this conflict.

  The sooner both sides meet around the negotiating table the better.
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  England v Ukraine

  by BoogerMan in

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  so nice to see thousands upon thousands of fighting-age ukrainian men managed to escape the war and reach wembley to support their national football team yesterday.

  things must be improving, eh?.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  Yeah, interesting essay.

  If Putin does decide to invade Lithuania, Latvia or Estonia, then these NATO member states will rightly defend themselves, aided by other NATO countries.

  I have already heard about Putin's essay, which the author links to. Putin does indeed argue that Ukrainians, Belorussians and Russians are the same people. Although it's perhaps important to note that he doesn't include ethnic Lithuanians, Latvians or Estonians in his analysis.

  I'm not 100% on whether Putin will attack the Balkans. If he does then he can have no qualms when the UK and US get properly involved.

  Personally, I feel that if Putin has a next target it will be Moldova. Transnistria is an eastern area in Moldova which is populated by ethnic Russians who are looking to Moscow.

  There's one thing I wonder about the West's wonderful relationship with Ukraine and it's this:

  What does the West get out of it?

  I understand what Ukraine gets out of it - lots of free military hardware costing billions of pounds/dollars.

  Does Zalenskyy intend to pay us back at some point?

  Let's imagine that in 5 years time, Argentina invades the Falklands. Would Ukraine give us some military hardware and equipment, or help us in some other way?

  The West-Ukraine relationship seems to be one-way. Relationships without reciprocity rarely last long.
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  England v Ukraine

  by BoogerMan in

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  so nice to see thousands upon thousands of fighting-age ukrainian men managed to escape the war and reach wembley to support their national football team yesterday.

  things must be improving, eh?.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  Thanks, Cofty.

  Will read the link ...
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  England v Ukraine

  by BoogerMan in

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  so nice to see thousands upon thousands of fighting-age ukrainian men managed to escape the war and reach wembley to support their national football team yesterday.

  things must be improving, eh?.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  @Cofty - unfortunately I don't have that book to hand at the moment.

  All I'm asking for is evidence that Putin intends to attack the Balkan states ( Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia) after he's done with Ukraine.

  NB - Volodymyr Zalenskiy's ranting doesn't count has evidence, lol.
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  England v Ukraine

  by BoogerMan in

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  so nice to see thousands upon thousands of fighting-age ukrainian men managed to escape the war and reach wembley to support their national football team yesterday.

  things must be improving, eh?.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  @Cofty - I'm not sure it's a good idea to compare today's situation with the Nazis of the 30s and 40s.

  For a start, Hitler wasn't threatening to nuke The West.
  

  And, I'm not sure what evidence you or anyone else has re Putin planning to attack other former Soviet states after he's done with Ukraine. Please present evidence.
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  England v Ukraine

  by BoogerMan in

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  so nice to see thousands upon thousands of fighting-age ukrainian men managed to escape the war and reach wembley to support their national football team yesterday.

  things must be improving, eh?.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  The situation in Ukraine, Crimea, Donbas and south west Russia is quite complex.

  Of course, you get useful idiots like peacefulpete who, having spent decades deriding people as racist and Little Englanders for caring about England's national interest, have now discovered how important national identity is.

  Well, this complex problem won't be solved by these people. In fact, these people (e.g. Boris Johnson) have actually prolonged the war by giving Ukraine lots of free shit - munitions, tanks, etc.

  I once knew a Russian student when I was at Bromley College. One day it was snowing while we walked to class. I made small talk with her, saying she should be used to the weather because she comes from Russia. She replied that she wasn't, because she came from the south. She didn't tell me exactly where she came from. But I was interested in trying to work it out. I looked at maps of Russia in winter, and realised that the further east you go, the colder it gets, even at southern latitudes. The best I could pinpoint where she came from was the furthest west, furthest south in Russia or Ukraine. She likely came from the southernmost tip of Crimea, which was still Ukrainian at the time (this was in 2009-10). And yet she still referred to herself as Russian.

  There are plenty of people in Donbas and Crimea who want to be ruled by Moscow. That is just a fact that people like peacefulpete seem not to acknowledge.

  This war will likely drag on until both parties get around the negotiating table. It won't be won on the battlefield - only prolonged.