Posts by LoveUniHateExams

The main thing is freedom of information and, following that, freedom to draw my own conclusions and think and say pretty much whatever I like. People don't have to agree with me or like what I say and that's fine, too.

Other things: sexual freedom, freedom to choose my career.

TIME is a great thing, too. I'm not wasting my time (3 meetings a week plus field service) on the cult.

There are probably more things but I can't think of them right now.

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Do You Think Disfellowshipping Is The Worst Thing About Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by minimus in

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the longer i’m out the more i feel that disfellowshipping is cruel.

i understand the organization tells parents to not even accept emails or texts from their disfellowshipped children.

while i was a witness they tried to discourage families from association but there was some leeway if it was considered necessary business to interact.

LoveUniHateExams

The two-witness rule is applied to everything and everyone equally and it should not have exception for child sex abuse cases

^^^ unbelievable comment right there.

Many children from a JW background have been abused and are still waiting for justice. Abused JW kids are treated worse in the cult than abused kids are treated in 'the world'.

Go watch the Australian Royal Commission, among other things.

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According to the Old Testament aren`t YHWH God and the then Nation of Israel guilty of War crimes by today`s standards? ?

by smiddy3 in

just going by memory here with regard to the "old testament' when god promised the land he chose for the jews ,flowing with milk and honey ?.

their is no record in the bible of god ever giving an option to all the nations that already lived their to move on and he would compensate them at a new destination.?.

apparently without warning he just charged up the israelite`s for war with these nations to evict them from this territory that they had resided in for who knows how long.. not only that ,they apparently spared no one in their conquests killing man,woman and even dashing children to pieces ,and not feeling sorry for anyone.. don`t people think that this is a bit barbaric ?.

LoveUniHateExams

Yes, the OT and the biblical nation of Israel are guilty of war crimes - genocide, stoning of gays, adulteresses, apostates, etc.

But this issue isn't really pressing because there aren't radical Jews today calling for the restoration of Mosaic law, as far as I'm aware.

The world's only Jewish state, Israel, is a Western democracy with an annual Gay Pride march in Tel Aviv.

(If you're gay and Arab, the best place to live in the Middle East is Israel, no doubt.)

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Do You Think Disfellowshipping Is The Worst Thing About Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by minimus in

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the longer i’m out the more i feel that disfellowshipping is cruel.

i understand the organization tells parents to not even accept emails or texts from their disfellowshipped children.

while i was a witness they tried to discourage families from association but there was some leeway if it was considered necessary business to interact.

LoveUniHateExams

Disfellowshipping and shunning are very bad but I don't think they're the worst of JWdom.

For me, it has to be the two-witness rule applied to child sex abuse.

The blood doctrine is also very dangerous.

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Convention 2019: Children told don't form emotional attachment to pets!

by Nathan R. Koppe in

i have just heard from a visitor to the jehovah's witnesses convention for 2019, that they have been told; 'not to form an emotional attachment to their pets, as animals don't have feelings anyway'.. well, that should break a few children hearts!👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 🥴 😭 💔.

my orignal topics are at.

further info:.

LoveUniHateExams

Children told not to form bonds with their pets? - WTF?!

Hopefully this cultish nonsense will wake up even more JWs and start their journey out the cult.

It's natural and perfectly normal to form bonds with pets.

You even have 'mental health dogs' (sorry, can't think of their real name) touring hospitals and helping sick or depressed people just by visiting them.

“When humans attempt to elevate animals to a human level they are, in fact, degrading themselves ..." - this is very strange reasoning. Most people love their pets, that's kinda the whole idea.

And it obviously doesn't mean people are elevating their pets to the level of humans or are putting pets above humans.

there is need for caution with regard to the pets we may have. We may note that a wrong attitude toward the animal creation was involved in the first woman’s fall into rebellion against God - shoe-horning the Genesis story in here is absolutely ridiculous. XD

'not to form an emotional attachment to their pets, as animals don't have feelings anyway' - animals don't have feelings? How do they know this? How can anyone claim to know the answer to this?

Pets certainly have nerve cells, so they can obviously feel physical pain.

Maybe at least some animals can have emotions and feel emotional pain?

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Languages, Dialects, Accents

by LoveUniHateExams in

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just though i'd start a thread devoted to languages, dialects/sociolects and accents, with the idea being that posters can comment on any language, or dialect or accent of any language, on this thread.. any phrases, expressions or idioms that you find interesting are also welcome.

first, the subject of english accents came up on another thread.. the british isles have many different types of accent (although many of the dialects may be dying out), and if i start to take a closer look, i can't help but see 'patterns' .... in received pronunciation of standard english, the letter r is pronounced initially, between vowels, and after consonants, e.g.

red, arrow, break.

LoveUniHateExams

Just thought I'd return to this thread.

I'm not learning Arabic at the moment (my laptop has broken down, I'm basically too poor to get it mended and also buy the kind of learning materials I'd like) but I did see an interesting book in the library. It has a section on the Arabic numbers and counting that explains things for me. The situation is a bit more complicated than counting in English.

In English, it's all very simple: we say one + the singular of the noun, e.g. one cat. Then from two upwards, we say the number then the plural, e.g. two cats, ten cats, twenty men, etc.

There are a few little odd things for the learner of English to be aware of - we sometimes say fifty pound, instead of fifty pounds. And when I talk about my height, I don't say five feet ten inches, I say five foot ten.

Lastly, there are a few informal or regional terms as well - a grand means 1000, K also means thousand, a score means twenty, etc. But it's basically plain-sailing.

And now for numerals and counting in Arabic.

For abstract counting (i.e. counting without the object), Arabic has the following:

1. waahed

2. ithnaaan

3. thalaatha

4. arba3a

5. khamsa

6. sitta

7. sab3a

8. thamaania

9. tis3a

10. 3ashara

I always wondered why 3 to 10 end in -a (in Arabic script, the ending is actually ta marboota, a t that is usually silent) but 1 and 2 don't. The book explains that for abstract counting, 1 and 2 are in the masculine form and 3 to 10 are in their feminine forms.

I want to show you how complicated the number system gets in Arabic, so I'll be comparing two nouns, and how to count with them: bayt ('house', masculine) and bint ('girl', feminine).

To say 'one girl' or 'one house', you don't bother with waahed (1), plus Arabic has no indefinite article (a, an) so you can just say bint or bayt.

To say two houses/girls, again you don't bother with ithnaan (2) because Arabic has a dual ending (-aan) for nouns. So bintaan ... baytaan.

From 3 to 10, you use the numbers with the plural form of the noun. The plural of bayt is buyoot and the plural of bint is banaat. But - and this is where things start getting batsh*t - you have what is known as 'opposite agreement'. This means that if the noun being counted is masculine, you have to use the feminine forms of the numbers, and vice versa for feminine nouns. So ...

thalaath banaat ... thalaathat buyoot

arb3 banaat ... arba3at buyoot

khams banaat ... khamsat buyoot

sitt banaat ... sittat buyoot

sab3 banaat ... sab3at buyoot

thamaani banaat ... thamaaniat buyoot

tis3 banaat ... tis3at buyoot

3ashar banaat ... 3asharat buyoot. (the silent ta marboota is pronounced here when counting masculine nouns.)

From 11 upwards, you use the numeral plus the singular of the noun.

So, 6 houses is sittat buyoot but 60 houses is sitteen bayt. And, from what I remember, when you ask 'How many ... ?' you also have the noun in the singular: kam bint? - how many girls?

There is also the question of case endings, used in the 'highest' form of Arabic, e.g. political speeches, scientific conferences, whatever.

I'll give you one example, one I remember: when asking how many plus masculine noun, you use the singular (as mention directly above) but you also have to add the accusative case ending (-an) onto the noun.

E.g. - kam kalban? - how many dogs?

Kam rajulan? - how many men?

But I'll generally leave case endings out, there's enough craziness in this post already! XD

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So how "worldly" did you get after you left the "truth"

by greenhornet in

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i don't drive a 4 door car.

lol.

i go to a local christian church.

LoveUniHateExams

Not much, I went out drinking and clubbing a bit, got off with a girl from work, that's about it.

The best thing I did was go back to full-time education.

To all you posters - and to any lurkers - I say the following: seriously consider going to college and uni.

Consider your career and think about what you're good at and would love to do.