The Editorial - posted above - appears in today's (Thursday 17 November 2016) printed version of the Spanish newspaper El Periódico, in the middle of page six:
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Landmark: FIRST EVER report of JW child sexual abuse in Spain
by darkspilver inas per barbara anderson's post two months ago - today, wednesday 16 november 2016, in an historic landmark, the barcelonian based newspaper el periódico's website has published the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the jehovah's witnesses in spain.. a penal code was introduced in spain in 1995, which specified an age of consent of 12 for all sexual acts, this was then raised to 13 in 1999. currently, under a new law which came into effect on 1 july 2015, the age of consent in spain is 16, which rises to 18 if there is deception or abuse of a recognized position of trust, authority or influence over the minor.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_consent_in_europe#spain.
jehovah's witness in spain were forbidden from public manifestations of faith until they where legally recognized in the country on friday 10 july 1970, in accordance with the religious liberty law of 1967.. at the time of legal recognition there were some 11,041 active jw's in spain which had a population then of just over 32 million (a ratio of 1-in-2,908 ).. in the following two years 144 kingdom halls were legalized and inaugurated, and the number of active jw's increased by 42% to 15,668 with the memorial attended by some 40,000.. at the time it was claimed that the jw's were the second-largest religious group in the country (second only to the catholics).. after 230 years, spain abolished compulsory military service in 2001.. today there are 109,457 active jw's in spain which has a current population 46,439,864 (a ratio 1-in-417 - to compare, the usa ratio is currently 1-in-261 ).. under the heading a religious organization under investigation, el periódico has published the following three articles:los testigos de jehová a una niña violada: "si lo cuentas, te quedarás sin paraíso".
una mujer de 29 años denuncia que fue agredida sexualmente y coaccionada para silenciarlo hace 21 años.
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Landmark: FIRST EVER report of JW child sexual abuse in Spain
by darkspilver inas per barbara anderson's post two months ago - today, wednesday 16 november 2016, in an historic landmark, the barcelonian based newspaper el periódico's website has published the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the jehovah's witnesses in spain.. a penal code was introduced in spain in 1995, which specified an age of consent of 12 for all sexual acts, this was then raised to 13 in 1999. currently, under a new law which came into effect on 1 july 2015, the age of consent in spain is 16, which rises to 18 if there is deception or abuse of a recognized position of trust, authority or influence over the minor.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_consent_in_europe#spain.
jehovah's witness in spain were forbidden from public manifestations of faith until they where legally recognized in the country on friday 10 july 1970, in accordance with the religious liberty law of 1967.. at the time of legal recognition there were some 11,041 active jw's in spain which had a population then of just over 32 million (a ratio of 1-in-2,908 ).. in the following two years 144 kingdom halls were legalized and inaugurated, and the number of active jw's increased by 42% to 15,668 with the memorial attended by some 40,000.. at the time it was claimed that the jw's were the second-largest religious group in the country (second only to the catholics).. after 230 years, spain abolished compulsory military service in 2001.. today there are 109,457 active jw's in spain which has a current population 46,439,864 (a ratio 1-in-417 - to compare, the usa ratio is currently 1-in-261 ).. under the heading a religious organization under investigation, el periódico has published the following three articles:los testigos de jehová a una niña violada: "si lo cuentas, te quedarás sin paraíso".
una mujer de 29 años denuncia que fue agredida sexualmente y coaccionada para silenciarlo hace 21 años.
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Editorial: More suspicions about Jehovah's Witnesses
Those responsible for religious organization should be the first interested in getting out of the serious denunciations of former members
Editorial: Más sospechas sobre los testigos de Jehová
Los responsables de organización religiosa deben ser los primeros interesados en salir al paso de las graves denuncias de antiguos miembros
http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/opinion/mas-sospechas-sobre-los-testigos-jehova-5633725
Editorial: More suspicions about Jehovah's Witnesses
Those responsible for religious organization should be the first interested in getting out of the serious denunciations of former members
At the end of September, this newspaper reported the complaint filed by an ex-member of the Jehovah's Witnesses where he explained the harassment he suffered after leaving the religious organization. He also revealed the sexual abuses suffered during his adolescence by a member of the entity and how his co-religionists told him to be silent in order not to bring shame to the community. Less than three months later new allegations of disgusting sexual assaults on minors who belonged to their families and who, like an 8-year-old girl raped, were threatened with being "without paradise" if They told what had happened.
Logically, it will now be the justice that determines the nature of the facts denounced and the possible criminal responsibilities of what is now a police report. However, the accumulation of such testimonies raise unavoidable suspicions that will only dissipate with an exercise of transparency on the part of those responsible for the religious entity. They must be the first interested in responding to the grave accusations of these former members of their community who, in the worst case, would equate the most obscure sectarian groups. With more than 100,000 faithful in Spain - out of the 8.5 million worldwide - Jehovah's Witnesses can not afford to have reasonable doubts about their activities. And the rest of society, either.
http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/opinion/mas-sospechas-sobre-los-testigos-jehova-5633725
The following thread has links/screenshots and English translation of previous articles etc mentioned in the above Editorial
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An LGTB newspaper in Spain features my personal experience.
by sp74bb inan lgtb newspaper in spain features my personal experience:.
http://shangay.com/el-testigo-de-jehová-expulsado-por-gay-“denuncié-por-abuso-sexual”.
please find a google translation in english:.
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Who is Ronnie?
Sorry, it's a throw-away English-based cultural reference made in respect of the above
Terence Rattigan (1911 – 1977) is a well respected English playwright, who was also a homosexual. His most well-known work is probably the 1946 play The Winslow Boy.
The boy of the title - Ronnie Winslow - is a fourteen-year-old cadet at Naval College who is accused of stealing a five-shilling postal order - his father believes he is innocent and engages a top barrister to fight the case.
The barrister accepts the case, declaring after a short interview with the boy, that he is plainly innocent - at the end it is revealed that the barrister believed the boy was innocent partly due to his account not changing despite being given both loopholes and traps.
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Landmark: FIRST EVER report of JW child sexual abuse in Spain
by darkspilver inas per barbara anderson's post two months ago - today, wednesday 16 november 2016, in an historic landmark, the barcelonian based newspaper el periódico's website has published the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the jehovah's witnesses in spain.. a penal code was introduced in spain in 1995, which specified an age of consent of 12 for all sexual acts, this was then raised to 13 in 1999. currently, under a new law which came into effect on 1 july 2015, the age of consent in spain is 16, which rises to 18 if there is deception or abuse of a recognized position of trust, authority or influence over the minor.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_consent_in_europe#spain.
jehovah's witness in spain were forbidden from public manifestations of faith until they where legally recognized in the country on friday 10 july 1970, in accordance with the religious liberty law of 1967.. at the time of legal recognition there were some 11,041 active jw's in spain which had a population then of just over 32 million (a ratio of 1-in-2,908 ).. in the following two years 144 kingdom halls were legalized and inaugurated, and the number of active jw's increased by 42% to 15,668 with the memorial attended by some 40,000.. at the time it was claimed that the jw's were the second-largest religious group in the country (second only to the catholics).. after 230 years, spain abolished compulsory military service in 2001.. today there are 109,457 active jw's in spain which has a current population 46,439,864 (a ratio 1-in-417 - to compare, the usa ratio is currently 1-in-261 ).. under the heading a religious organization under investigation, el periódico has published the following three articles:los testigos de jehová a una niña violada: "si lo cuentas, te quedarás sin paraíso".
una mujer de 29 años denuncia que fue agredida sexualmente y coaccionada para silenciarlo hace 21 años.
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Following the landmark revelations yesterday (Wednesday 16 November 2016) online in the Spanish newspaper El Periódico's website of the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses in Spain as posted above in this thread....
People are now waking up this morning and seeing the PRINTED version of the above account in the newspaper editon, of which around 100,000 copies are currently being distributed TODAY (Thursday 17 November 2016) in and around Spain.
The article is flagged up on the FRONT PAGE - in lower left hand corner - which directs readers to a FULL DOUBLE PAGE spread inside the newspaper on pages 34 and 35 - see scans below.
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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...
by AndersonsInfo inannouncement from spain:.
on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.
please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.
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Hi wifibandit
Have now added scaned images of the articles from the hard-copy edition of the newspaper - http://imgur.com/a/eOjTZ
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Landmark: FIRST EVER report of JW child sexual abuse in Spain
by darkspilver inas per barbara anderson's post two months ago - today, wednesday 16 november 2016, in an historic landmark, the barcelonian based newspaper el periódico's website has published the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the jehovah's witnesses in spain.. a penal code was introduced in spain in 1995, which specified an age of consent of 12 for all sexual acts, this was then raised to 13 in 1999. currently, under a new law which came into effect on 1 july 2015, the age of consent in spain is 16, which rises to 18 if there is deception or abuse of a recognized position of trust, authority or influence over the minor.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_consent_in_europe#spain.
jehovah's witness in spain were forbidden from public manifestations of faith until they where legally recognized in the country on friday 10 july 1970, in accordance with the religious liberty law of 1967.. at the time of legal recognition there were some 11,041 active jw's in spain which had a population then of just over 32 million (a ratio of 1-in-2,908 ).. in the following two years 144 kingdom halls were legalized and inaugurated, and the number of active jw's increased by 42% to 15,668 with the memorial attended by some 40,000.. at the time it was claimed that the jw's were the second-largest religious group in the country (second only to the catholics).. after 230 years, spain abolished compulsory military service in 2001.. today there are 109,457 active jw's in spain which has a current population 46,439,864 (a ratio 1-in-417 - to compare, the usa ratio is currently 1-in-261 ).. under the heading a religious organization under investigation, el periódico has published the following three articles:los testigos de jehová a una niña violada: "si lo cuentas, te quedarás sin paraíso".
una mujer de 29 años denuncia que fue agredida sexualmente y coaccionada para silenciarlo hace 21 años.
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Hi wannaexit
There is another thread to talks about this.
Yeah, I noted that, which is specifically why I 'hat-tipped' that thread at the end of my above posting - but unlike that thread I've included both screen shots of the all three web articles, along with English (Google) translations, as well as background information including, according to Barbara Anderson, it's landmark significance.
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Landmark: FIRST EVER report of JW child sexual abuse in Spain
by darkspilver inas per barbara anderson's post two months ago - today, wednesday 16 november 2016, in an historic landmark, the barcelonian based newspaper el periódico's website has published the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the jehovah's witnesses in spain.. a penal code was introduced in spain in 1995, which specified an age of consent of 12 for all sexual acts, this was then raised to 13 in 1999. currently, under a new law which came into effect on 1 july 2015, the age of consent in spain is 16, which rises to 18 if there is deception or abuse of a recognized position of trust, authority or influence over the minor.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_consent_in_europe#spain.
jehovah's witness in spain were forbidden from public manifestations of faith until they where legally recognized in the country on friday 10 july 1970, in accordance with the religious liberty law of 1967.. at the time of legal recognition there were some 11,041 active jw's in spain which had a population then of just over 32 million (a ratio of 1-in-2,908 ).. in the following two years 144 kingdom halls were legalized and inaugurated, and the number of active jw's increased by 42% to 15,668 with the memorial attended by some 40,000.. at the time it was claimed that the jw's were the second-largest religious group in the country (second only to the catholics).. after 230 years, spain abolished compulsory military service in 2001.. today there are 109,457 active jw's in spain which has a current population 46,439,864 (a ratio 1-in-417 - to compare, the usa ratio is currently 1-in-261 ).. under the heading a religious organization under investigation, el periódico has published the following three articles:los testigos de jehová a una niña violada: "si lo cuentas, te quedarás sin paraíso".
una mujer de 29 años denuncia que fue agredida sexualmente y coaccionada para silenciarlo hace 21 años.
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Cinco denuncias contra los Testigos de Jehová en un mes
La organización religiosa acumula querellas por abusos sexuales y coacciones
Five allegations against Jehovah's Witnesses in one month
Religious organization raises complaints of sexual abuse and coercion
http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/sociedad/cinco-denuncias-testigos-jehova-5632503
Five allegations against Jehovah's Witnesses in one month
Religious organization raises complaints of sexual abuse and coercion
The Society of Christian Witnesses of Jehovah - the official name of this confession in Spain - has accumulated over the last month five different allegations. The first was picked up at the end of September the Badalona police station of the Mossos d'Esquadra. Miguel García explained to this newspaper that he filed this complaint to uncover the parallel judicial hearings celebrated by this religious confession, the coercion suffered by his members and the concealment by Cardedeu's congregation of the sexual abuse he suffered at the age of 16.
The second was presented by Sarah in early October in a police station of the Civil Guard in Salamanca. This woman explained that Jehovah's Witnesses of Brazil expelled her for her transsexual status and then forbade her mother and sister to talk to her.
At the end of October, Juan Bourgon reported in Santander that he was expelled from the congregation for asking about information on cases of child sexual abuse that were emerging in the United States.
Israel Flórez presented a few days ago the fourth lawsuit in Toledo to explain that the group of which he was part decided to cover the abuses he suffered with 5 years.
With the denunciation of Noelia there are already 5 complaints filed against this organization. Three of these reproduce a common approach to sexual abuse of minors: not to denounce them and keep them secret.
http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/sociedad/cinco-denuncias-testigos-jehova-5632503
For the previous cases and articles refered to in the above article/s, please see the following thread:
Hat tips to
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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...
by AndersonsInfo inannouncement from spain:.
on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.
please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.
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AndersonsInfo
www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in Spain Watchtower.
wifibandit
We will be ALL OVER this story. Thank you for sharing.
Hi wifibandit
Feel free to use the images of the article/s I made - originals are here: http://imgur.com/a/eOjTZ
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Definition of Pederast and Pederasty
by darkspilver inas an english speaking member of this english forum, i understand the nouns 'pederasty' and 'pederast' to be 'sexual activity involving a man and a boy' - ie.
it has a 'homosexual' specific slant, with both parties being male, and with one of them generally 'under-age'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pederastyhttps://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/pederastyinterestingly the wikipedia article states specifically that 'pederasty is not to be confused with pedophilia'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pedophiliahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/child_sexual_abusetherefore, considering that i understand that the word isn't originally english, but like a lot of english words is derived from the greek, how are we to understand the use of 'pederasty' in other langauges, for example spanish, which, as nathan natas said, has a english problem of "pronoun poisoning".
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As an English speaking member of this English forum, I understand the nouns 'pederasty' and 'pederast' to be 'sexual activity involving a man and a boy' - ie. it has a 'homosexual' specific slant, with both parties being male, and with one of them generally 'under-age'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/pederasty
Interestingly the Wikipedia article states specifically that 'pederasty is not to be confused with pedophilia'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse
Therefore, considering that I understand that the word isn't originally English, but like a lot of English words is derived from the Greek, how are we to understand the use of 'pederasty' in other langauges, for example Spanish, which, as Nathan Natas said, has a English problem of "pronoun poisoning"The query is due to the - linked below - article in the Spanish newspaper El Periódico that appears to use 'pederast' in relation to 'adult male / child female' - but the translation is confusing due to the genders of the nouns in Spanish.....
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Landmark: FIRST EVER report of JW child sexual abuse in Spain
by darkspilver inas per barbara anderson's post two months ago - today, wednesday 16 november 2016, in an historic landmark, the barcelonian based newspaper el periódico's website has published the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the jehovah's witnesses in spain.. a penal code was introduced in spain in 1995, which specified an age of consent of 12 for all sexual acts, this was then raised to 13 in 1999. currently, under a new law which came into effect on 1 july 2015, the age of consent in spain is 16, which rises to 18 if there is deception or abuse of a recognized position of trust, authority or influence over the minor.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_consent_in_europe#spain.
jehovah's witness in spain were forbidden from public manifestations of faith until they where legally recognized in the country on friday 10 july 1970, in accordance with the religious liberty law of 1967.. at the time of legal recognition there were some 11,041 active jw's in spain which had a population then of just over 32 million (a ratio of 1-in-2,908 ).. in the following two years 144 kingdom halls were legalized and inaugurated, and the number of active jw's increased by 42% to 15,668 with the memorial attended by some 40,000.. at the time it was claimed that the jw's were the second-largest religious group in the country (second only to the catholics).. after 230 years, spain abolished compulsory military service in 2001.. today there are 109,457 active jw's in spain which has a current population 46,439,864 (a ratio 1-in-417 - to compare, the usa ratio is currently 1-in-261 ).. under the heading a religious organization under investigation, el periódico has published the following three articles:los testigos de jehová a una niña violada: "si lo cuentas, te quedarás sin paraíso".
una mujer de 29 años denuncia que fue agredida sexualmente y coaccionada para silenciarlo hace 21 años.
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Extestigos de Jehová contra la ley del silencio de la organización
Israel Flórez asegura que la organización le exigió que no contara los abusos sufridos para proteger la imagen del grupo
Juan Bourgon ha sido expulsado de la confesión por preguntar sobre el maltrato sexual infantil
Jehovah's Extests against the Law of Silence of the Organization
Israel Flórez says that the organization demanded that it not count the abuses suffered to protect the image of the group
Juan Bourgon has been expelled from the confession for asking about child sexual abuse
Jehovah's Extests against the Law of Silence of the Organization
Israel Flórez says that the organization demanded that it not count the abuses suffered to protect the image of the group
Juan Bourgon has been expelled from the confession for asking about child sexual abuse
Israel Flórez, a 42-year-old man from Toledo, told THE PERIODICO that the Puerta del Ángel congregation - belonging to Jehovah's Witnesses - asked him to hide in 2000 the sexual abuse he suffered as a child - in 1979 - by a member of this religious denomination.
Florez's parents adopted the Jehovah's Witnesses faith in 1968. He was already born within this religious confession. When he was 5 years old, his mother left him one day with the son of some friends who would be between 17 and 18 years, also of the religious organization. He took him to his house, located on the Paseo de los Jesuitas (Madrid), locked him in his room, undressed him, touched him and masturbated in front of him.
After listening to him, the Elder - this is the name given to the senior people within each congregation - replied that he would communicate the information with the headquarters of Ajalvir (Madrid). Days later, he explained that it was best to "do nothing", that he had to "leave the matter to Jehovah."
After this incident, both he and his wife walked away from the confession because they realized that the court held court hearings for reasons as pilgrims as "smoking, get drunk, be homosexual or see pornography" and yet in cases like yours Opted not to act against the aggressor, who "continues today to be part of the creed."
Flórez has recently filed a complaint with the Guardia Civil in Toledo, in addition to that of Noelia Piris and the one that Miguel García presented in the Mossos d'Esquadra, as well as that of Sarah in Salamanca. He says he has done so because he wants to "avoid" what happens to more people than he has to live in an organization that "does not respect the basic freedoms that all human beings have."
"EXPULSED BY ASKING"
The fifth complaint lodged at the police headquarters against this organization was presented by Juan Bourgon, a 38-year-old man living in Santander. He has recently been expelled from the confession after asking in his congregation about the veracity of news published in the newspapers 'El País' and 'El Mundo' that reported on sexual abuse committed by members of Jehovah's Witnesses in the United States and about The millionaire damages that were being paid to the victims.
An old man from his congregation, Cuatro Caminos (Santander), asked him to refrain from "talking" with the other members of this information and urged him to write a letter to the leadership that he himself would deliver to resolve his doubts. Bourgon has sent to this newspaper the missive that he wrote and that was never sent.
Days later, two elders met him, which lasted six hours, during which they tried to convince him that they were "orchestrated by the devil". They did not succeed. And he remained restless and talking to his acquaintances. Shortly thereafter he was expelled for "apostasy."
His father has taken his word away. "He thinks I'm a mentally ill," explains the man who has been severely cut off from his relationship with his family by asking about sexual abuse of minors in this confession.
Bourgon has filed this complaint both in the National Police Corps and in the Civil Guard. The first body handed the complaint to a court of investigation and the court has filed because "no appreciation of any crime." A decision that has appealed. The second, at the moment, as noted by police sources, is taken into account as part of its investigation into sexual abuse of minors silenced within this creed.
(link also includes a short 142 second video in Spanish only)
