Posts by darkspilver

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Landmark: FIRST EVER report of JW child sexual abuse in Spain

by darkspilver in

as per barbara anderson's post two months ago - today, wednesday 16 november 2016, in an historic landmark, the barcelonian based newspaper el periódico's website has published the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the jehovah's witnesses in spain.. a penal code was introduced in spain in 1995, which specified an age of consent of 12 for all sexual acts, this was then raised to 13 in 1999. currently, under a new law which came into effect on 1 july 2015, the age of consent in spain is 16, which rises to 18 if there is deception or abuse of a recognized position of trust, authority or influence over the minor.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_consent_in_europe#spain.

jehovah's witness in spain were forbidden from public manifestations of faith until they where legally recognized in the country on friday 10 july 1970, in accordance with the religious liberty law of 1967.. at the time of legal recognition there were some 11,041 active jw's in spain which had a population then of just over 32 million (a ratio of 1-in-2,908 ).. in the following two years 144 kingdom halls were legalized and inaugurated, and the number of active jw's increased by 42% to 15,668 with the memorial attended by some 40,000.. at the time it was claimed that the jw's were the second-largest religious group in the country (second only to the catholics).. after 230 years, spain abolished compulsory military service in 2001.. today there are 109,457 active jw's in spain which has a current population 46,439,864 (a ratio 1-in-417 - to compare, the usa ratio is currently 1-in-261 ).. under the heading a religious organization under investigation, el periódico has published the following three articles:los testigos de jehová a una niña violada: "si lo cuentas, te quedarás sin paraíso".

una mujer de 29 años denuncia que fue agredida sexualmente y coaccionada para silenciarlo hace 21 años.

darkspilver

While the actual main text appears to be the same between the online and print versions of the above articles which where published yesterday and today (Wed 16 and Thu 17 November 2016) - the headlines have been slightly changed / edited between the two version (not 'online')

Newspaper Front Page (not 'online')

TESTIGOS DE JEHOVÁ, BAJO SOSPECHA
"Niña, si cuentas que abusó de ti, no irás al paraíso"
La Guardia Civil investiga dos casos de agresiones sexuales que la confesión ordenó tapar
COSAS DE LA VIDA > páginas 34 y 35

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, UNDER SUSPECT
"Girl, if you say he abused you, you will not go to paradise"
The Civil Guard investigates two cases of sexual assaults that the confession ordered to cover
THINGS OF LIFE > pages 34 and 35

First Article

Online: Los Testigos de Jehová a una niña violada: "Si lo cuentas, te quedarás sin paraíso"
Online: Jehovah's Witnesses to a raped girl: "If you tell it, you will be without paradise"
Print: "Niña, si cuentas que abusó de ti, no irás al paraíso"
Print: "Girl, if you say he abused you, you will not go to paradise"

Second Article

Online: Extestigos de Jehová contra la ley del silencio de la organización
Online: Ex-Jehovah's Witness speaks against the law of silence of the organization
Print: Contra la ley del silencio
Print: Against the law of silence

Third Article

Online: Cinco denuncias contra los Testigos de Jehová en un mes
Online: Five allegations against Jehovah's Witnesses in one month
Print: Cinco denuncias desde finales de septiembre
Print: Five complaints since late September

Editorial

Online: Más sospechas sobre los testigos de Jehová
Online: More suspicions about Jehovah's Witnesses
Print: Más sospechas sobre los Testigos de Jehová
Print: More suspicions about Jehovah's Witnesses

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Definition of Pederast and Pederasty

by darkspilver in

as an english speaking member of this english forum, i understand the nouns 'pederasty' and 'pederast' to be 'sexual activity involving a man and a boy' - ie.

it has a 'homosexual' specific slant, with both parties being male, and with one of them generally 'under-age'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pederastyhttps://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/pederastyinterestingly the wikipedia article states specifically that 'pederasty is not to be confused with pedophilia'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pedophiliahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/child_sexual_abusetherefore, considering that i understand that the word isn't originally english, but like a lot of english words is derived from the greek, how are we to understand the use of 'pederasty' in other langauges, for example spanish, which, as nathan natas said, has a english problem of "pronoun poisoning".

darkspilver

Hi Vidiot

Huh, Seems that back in Biblical times, sex with a young girl wasn't all that big of a deal.

Huh, not sure what that's got to do with defining the use/misuse of 'pederast' between the English and Spanish languages.

Anyway, I'm more shocked by the fact that

up to 2013 the age of consent in the Vactican City was 12
up to 2015 the age of consent in Spain was 13
that 14 is the current age of consent in ..... Germany, Austria, Italy, Portugal, Liechtenstein, Hungary, Bulgaria, Albania, Estonia, Andorra, Macedonia, Montenegro, San Marino and Serbia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe

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Landmark: FIRST EVER report of JW child sexual abuse in Spain

by darkspilver in

as per barbara anderson's post two months ago - today, wednesday 16 november 2016, in an historic landmark, the barcelonian based newspaper el periódico's website has published the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the jehovah's witnesses in spain.. a penal code was introduced in spain in 1995, which specified an age of consent of 12 for all sexual acts, this was then raised to 13 in 1999. currently, under a new law which came into effect on 1 july 2015, the age of consent in spain is 16, which rises to 18 if there is deception or abuse of a recognized position of trust, authority or influence over the minor.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_consent_in_europe#spain.

jehovah's witness in spain were forbidden from public manifestations of faith until they where legally recognized in the country on friday 10 july 1970, in accordance with the religious liberty law of 1967.. at the time of legal recognition there were some 11,041 active jw's in spain which had a population then of just over 32 million (a ratio of 1-in-2,908 ).. in the following two years 144 kingdom halls were legalized and inaugurated, and the number of active jw's increased by 42% to 15,668 with the memorial attended by some 40,000.. at the time it was claimed that the jw's were the second-largest religious group in the country (second only to the catholics).. after 230 years, spain abolished compulsory military service in 2001.. today there are 109,457 active jw's in spain which has a current population 46,439,864 (a ratio 1-in-417 - to compare, the usa ratio is currently 1-in-261 ).. under the heading a religious organization under investigation, el periódico has published the following three articles:los testigos de jehová a una niña violada: "si lo cuentas, te quedarás sin paraíso".

una mujer de 29 años denuncia que fue agredida sexualmente y coaccionada para silenciarlo hace 21 años.

darkspilver

The Editorial - posted above - appears in today's (Thursday 17 November 2016) printed version of the Spanish newspaper El Periódico, in the middle of page six:

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Landmark: FIRST EVER report of JW child sexual abuse in Spain

by darkspilver in

as per barbara anderson's post two months ago - today, wednesday 16 november 2016, in an historic landmark, the barcelonian based newspaper el periódico's website has published the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the jehovah's witnesses in spain.. a penal code was introduced in spain in 1995, which specified an age of consent of 12 for all sexual acts, this was then raised to 13 in 1999. currently, under a new law which came into effect on 1 july 2015, the age of consent in spain is 16, which rises to 18 if there is deception or abuse of a recognized position of trust, authority or influence over the minor.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_consent_in_europe#spain.

jehovah's witness in spain were forbidden from public manifestations of faith until they where legally recognized in the country on friday 10 july 1970, in accordance with the religious liberty law of 1967.. at the time of legal recognition there were some 11,041 active jw's in spain which had a population then of just over 32 million (a ratio of 1-in-2,908 ).. in the following two years 144 kingdom halls were legalized and inaugurated, and the number of active jw's increased by 42% to 15,668 with the memorial attended by some 40,000.. at the time it was claimed that the jw's were the second-largest religious group in the country (second only to the catholics).. after 230 years, spain abolished compulsory military service in 2001.. today there are 109,457 active jw's in spain which has a current population 46,439,864 (a ratio 1-in-417 - to compare, the usa ratio is currently 1-in-261 ).. under the heading a religious organization under investigation, el periódico has published the following three articles:los testigos de jehová a una niña violada: "si lo cuentas, te quedarás sin paraíso".

una mujer de 29 años denuncia que fue agredida sexualmente y coaccionada para silenciarlo hace 21 años.

darkspilver

Editorial: More suspicions about Jehovah's Witnesses

Those responsible for religious organization should be the first interested in getting out of the serious denunciations of former members

Editorial: Más sospechas sobre los testigos de Jehová

Los responsables de organización religiosa deben ser los primeros interesados en salir al paso de las graves denuncias de antiguos miembros

http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/opinion/mas-sospechas-sobre-los-testigos-jehova-5633725

Editorial: More suspicions about Jehovah's Witnesses

Those responsible for religious organization should be the first interested in getting out of the serious denunciations of former members
At the end of September, this newspaper reported the complaint filed by an ex-member of the Jehovah's Witnesses where he explained the harassment he suffered after leaving the religious organization. He also revealed the sexual abuses suffered during his adolescence by a member of the entity and how his co-religionists told him to be silent in order not to bring shame to the community. Less than three months later new allegations of disgusting sexual assaults on minors who belonged to their families and who, like an 8-year-old girl raped, were threatened with being "without paradise" if They told what had happened.
Logically, it will now be the justice that determines the nature of the facts denounced and the possible criminal responsibilities of what is now a police report. However, the accumulation of such testimonies raise unavoidable suspicions that will only dissipate with an exercise of transparency on the part of those responsible for the religious entity. They must be the first interested in responding to the grave accusations of these former members of their community who, in the worst case, would equate the most obscure sectarian groups. With more than 100,000 faithful in Spain - out of the 8.5 million worldwide - Jehovah's Witnesses can not afford to have reasonable doubts about their activities. And the rest of society, either.
http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/opinion/mas-sospechas-sobre-los-testigos-jehova-5633725

The following thread has links/screenshots and English translation of previous articles etc mentioned in the above Editorial

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5088277520449536/announcement-from-spain-on-monday-26th-online-m-online-edition-elperiodico-es

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An LGTB newspaper in Spain features my personal experience.

by sp74bb in

an lgtb newspaper in spain features my personal experience:.

http://shangay.com/el-testigo-de-jehová-expulsado-por-gay-“denuncié-por-abuso-sexual”.

please find a google translation in english:.

darkspilver

Who is Ronnie?

Sorry, it's a throw-away English-based cultural reference made in respect of the above

Terence Rattigan (1911 – 1977) is a well respected English playwright, who was also a homosexual. His most well-known work is probably the 1946 play The Winslow Boy.

The boy of the title - Ronnie Winslow - is a fourteen-year-old cadet at Naval College who is accused of stealing a five-shilling postal order - his father believes he is innocent and engages a top barrister to fight the case.

The barrister accepts the case, declaring after a short interview with the boy, that he is plainly innocent - at the end it is revealed that the barrister believed the boy was innocent partly due to his account not changing despite being given both loopholes and traps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0_kIPbEKrM

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Landmark: FIRST EVER report of JW child sexual abuse in Spain

by darkspilver in

as per barbara anderson's post two months ago - today, wednesday 16 november 2016, in an historic landmark, the barcelonian based newspaper el periódico's website has published the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the jehovah's witnesses in spain.. a penal code was introduced in spain in 1995, which specified an age of consent of 12 for all sexual acts, this was then raised to 13 in 1999. currently, under a new law which came into effect on 1 july 2015, the age of consent in spain is 16, which rises to 18 if there is deception or abuse of a recognized position of trust, authority or influence over the minor.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_consent_in_europe#spain.

jehovah's witness in spain were forbidden from public manifestations of faith until they where legally recognized in the country on friday 10 july 1970, in accordance with the religious liberty law of 1967.. at the time of legal recognition there were some 11,041 active jw's in spain which had a population then of just over 32 million (a ratio of 1-in-2,908 ).. in the following two years 144 kingdom halls were legalized and inaugurated, and the number of active jw's increased by 42% to 15,668 with the memorial attended by some 40,000.. at the time it was claimed that the jw's were the second-largest religious group in the country (second only to the catholics).. after 230 years, spain abolished compulsory military service in 2001.. today there are 109,457 active jw's in spain which has a current population 46,439,864 (a ratio 1-in-417 - to compare, the usa ratio is currently 1-in-261 ).. under the heading a religious organization under investigation, el periódico has published the following three articles:los testigos de jehová a una niña violada: "si lo cuentas, te quedarás sin paraíso".

una mujer de 29 años denuncia que fue agredida sexualmente y coaccionada para silenciarlo hace 21 años.

darkspilver

Following the landmark revelations yesterday (Wednesday 16 November 2016) online in the Spanish newspaper El Periódico's website of the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses in Spain as posted above in this thread....

People are now waking up this morning and seeing the PRINTED version of the above account in the newspaper editon, of which around 100,000 copies are currently being distributed TODAY (Thursday 17 November 2016) in and around Spain.

The article is flagged up on the FRONT PAGE - in lower left hand corner - which directs readers to a FULL DOUBLE PAGE spread inside the newspaper on pages 34 and 35 - see scans below.

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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...

by AndersonsInfo in

announcement from spain:.

on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.

please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.

darkspilver

Hi wifibandit

Have now added scaned images of the articles from the hard-copy edition of the newspaper - http://imgur.com/a/eOjTZ

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Landmark: FIRST EVER report of JW child sexual abuse in Spain

by darkspilver in

as per barbara anderson's post two months ago - today, wednesday 16 november 2016, in an historic landmark, the barcelonian based newspaper el periódico's website has published the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the jehovah's witnesses in spain.. a penal code was introduced in spain in 1995, which specified an age of consent of 12 for all sexual acts, this was then raised to 13 in 1999. currently, under a new law which came into effect on 1 july 2015, the age of consent in spain is 16, which rises to 18 if there is deception or abuse of a recognized position of trust, authority or influence over the minor.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_consent_in_europe#spain.

jehovah's witness in spain were forbidden from public manifestations of faith until they where legally recognized in the country on friday 10 july 1970, in accordance with the religious liberty law of 1967.. at the time of legal recognition there were some 11,041 active jw's in spain which had a population then of just over 32 million (a ratio of 1-in-2,908 ).. in the following two years 144 kingdom halls were legalized and inaugurated, and the number of active jw's increased by 42% to 15,668 with the memorial attended by some 40,000.. at the time it was claimed that the jw's were the second-largest religious group in the country (second only to the catholics).. after 230 years, spain abolished compulsory military service in 2001.. today there are 109,457 active jw's in spain which has a current population 46,439,864 (a ratio 1-in-417 - to compare, the usa ratio is currently 1-in-261 ).. under the heading a religious organization under investigation, el periódico has published the following three articles:los testigos de jehová a una niña violada: "si lo cuentas, te quedarás sin paraíso".

una mujer de 29 años denuncia que fue agredida sexualmente y coaccionada para silenciarlo hace 21 años.

darkspilver

Hi wannaexit

There is another thread to talks about this.

Yeah, I noted that, which is specifically why I 'hat-tipped' that thread at the end of my above posting - but unlike that thread I've included both screen shots of the all three web articles, along with English (Google) translations, as well as background information including, according to Barbara Anderson, it's landmark significance.

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Landmark: FIRST EVER report of JW child sexual abuse in Spain

by darkspilver in

as per barbara anderson's post two months ago - today, wednesday 16 november 2016, in an historic landmark, the barcelonian based newspaper el periódico's website has published the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the jehovah's witnesses in spain.. a penal code was introduced in spain in 1995, which specified an age of consent of 12 for all sexual acts, this was then raised to 13 in 1999. currently, under a new law which came into effect on 1 july 2015, the age of consent in spain is 16, which rises to 18 if there is deception or abuse of a recognized position of trust, authority or influence over the minor.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_consent_in_europe#spain.

jehovah's witness in spain were forbidden from public manifestations of faith until they where legally recognized in the country on friday 10 july 1970, in accordance with the religious liberty law of 1967.. at the time of legal recognition there were some 11,041 active jw's in spain which had a population then of just over 32 million (a ratio of 1-in-2,908 ).. in the following two years 144 kingdom halls were legalized and inaugurated, and the number of active jw's increased by 42% to 15,668 with the memorial attended by some 40,000.. at the time it was claimed that the jw's were the second-largest religious group in the country (second only to the catholics).. after 230 years, spain abolished compulsory military service in 2001.. today there are 109,457 active jw's in spain which has a current population 46,439,864 (a ratio 1-in-417 - to compare, the usa ratio is currently 1-in-261 ).. under the heading a religious organization under investigation, el periódico has published the following three articles:los testigos de jehová a una niña violada: "si lo cuentas, te quedarás sin paraíso".

una mujer de 29 años denuncia que fue agredida sexualmente y coaccionada para silenciarlo hace 21 años.

darkspilver

Cinco denuncias contra los Testigos de Jehová en un mes

La organización religiosa acumula querellas por abusos sexuales y coacciones

Five allegations against Jehovah's Witnesses in one month

Religious organization raises complaints of sexual abuse and coercion

http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/sociedad/cinco-denuncias-testigos-jehova-5632503

Five allegations against Jehovah's Witnesses in one month

Religious organization raises complaints of sexual abuse and coercion
The Society of Christian Witnesses of Jehovah - the official name of this confession in Spain - has accumulated over the last month five different allegations. The first was picked up at the end of September the Badalona police station of the Mossos d'Esquadra. Miguel García explained to this newspaper that he filed this complaint to uncover the parallel judicial hearings celebrated by this religious confession, the coercion suffered by his members and the concealment by Cardedeu's congregation of the sexual abuse he suffered at the age of 16.
The second was presented by Sarah in early October in a police station of the Civil Guard in Salamanca. This woman explained that Jehovah's Witnesses of Brazil expelled her for her transsexual status and then forbade her mother and sister to talk to her.
At the end of October, Juan Bourgon reported in Santander that he was expelled from the congregation for asking about information on cases of child sexual abuse that were emerging in the United States.
Israel Flórez presented a few days ago the fourth lawsuit in Toledo to explain that the group of which he was part decided to cover the abuses he suffered with 5 years.
With the denunciation of Noelia there are already 5 complaints filed against this organization. Three of these reproduce a common approach to sexual abuse of minors: not to denounce them and keep them secret.
http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/sociedad/cinco-denuncias-testigos-jehova-5632503

For the previous cases and articles refered to in the above article/s, please see the following thread:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5088277520449536/announcement-from-spain-on-monday-26th-online-m-online-edition-elperiodico-es

Hat tips to

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5711674482884608/new-child-abuses-spain-informed-national-newspaper
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4894897532305408/noelia-29-years-raped-9-years-new-case-spanish-newspaper
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5088277520449536/announcement-from-spain-on-monday-26th-online-m-online-edition-elperiodico-es

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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...

by AndersonsInfo in

announcement from spain:.

on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.

please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.

darkspilver

AndersonsInfo

www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in Spain Watchtower.

wifibandit

We will be ALL OVER this story. Thank you for sharing.

Hi wifibandit

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4825164980158464/landmark-first-ever-report-jw-child-sexual-abuse-spain

Feel free to use the images of the article/s I made - originals are here: http://imgur.com/a/eOjTZ