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  A small update on the ongoing investigation by the Royal Commission

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think you people would like to know that since the public hearing has finished.

  there has been ongoing contact made to me by the staff at the rc.

  they have been inundated with calls and the same experiences or similar ones are being related.. the staff are not backwards in coming forwards with insights that they have shared.

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  snugglebunny........how bloody typical....har har.....At least you shepherded adult sisters who were pretty.

  Nuffin rong wiv abit uv fluff...........that was sharp memory from my early life in England...I..recall those corny sayings
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  MANDATORY CASTRATION - Yes or No ??

  by AFRIKANMAN in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11829782/australia-considers-compulsory-chemical-castration-for-paedophiles.html

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  Got it!!!! LOBOTOMY!! That should do the trick.........then the pit.
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  MANDATORY CASTRATION - Yes or No ??

  by AFRIKANMAN in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11829782/australia-considers-compulsory-chemical-castration-for-paedophiles.html

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  They do this here where I live. But, as the saying goes...." thought gives birth to the deed..". How will it take away the thought? The wanting power over a vulnerable one?. It's not always a matter of gratification on a physical level. There is a mind thing at play here.

  I don't know what to make of it. What about this.......chuck them all in a nice deep pit together and see what happens.

  Just keep them off the streets of the planet....preferably. I include women who may abuse children as well. Send them all to deep pit and let them work it out together.....
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  Prof. Jason BeDuhn letter on the NWT/KIT (part 1)

  by bj in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some days ago i asked you if someone wrote to prof j. buduhn who is quoted in the watchtower 1 february 1998, p. 32. here's what i received from him.

  as every translation does.

  jesus one can say "my god.

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  Refutation of BeDuhns "Truth in Translation". by Dr Thomas A Howes

  A Review of Dr Jason BeDuhn's " Truth in Translation". by Trevor R. Allen.

  Just two to start with. One of the main arguments I have read is that BeDuhn lacks any linguistic doctorate, is not a linguist.....This is an important aspect in unravelling many aspects of language.

  I leave it to you to have a small read, then read further. The university BeDuhn attends has distanced it'self from his work on this particular topic of the NWT. Unusual considering he is teaching there......
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  A Judicial experience.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i was an elder in the 80s, a 16 year old baptized jw girl had confessed that at school during lunch a boy kissed her and touched her privates over her dress.

  the circuit overseer was in town and we told him of the situation and he called the society and then told us that mother said we were not allowed to conduct the funeral in the kingdom hall or anywhere else with the threat of removing us and being dealt with judicially if we disobeyed.

  the mother who is about 79 years old comes once a year to talk to my mom about the situation.

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  So you woke up not too long ago? I know so little about the people here. Are your' stories in the members section?

  I want to know why you awoke. What really happened, what was the final straw.
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  help me understand: My wife seems to be utterly detested by skelletons and skulls. Why?

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, here i am again....asking more questions to help me understand my wife.

  she was brought up in the cult in the 70's and 80's.

  so i can only imagine what kind of indoctrination she deals with.

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  In Victorian times, a skull was not an unusual thing to have in the house. Be it on the side board or even on the table. It was considered to be a reminder as to our fallibility and an inevitable end to our earthly existence.

  There is a famous Mexican painting/drawing of two women at a cafe, wearing hats. On closer inspection the image is entirely of a "skull". I found it clever and have never seen anything to match it.

  I don't know why she freaks out at skulls for we all have them, it's just ours are currently filled in with skin and cartilage.

  There were some supposed "embedded" images in some WT magazines a few years back maybe she thinks they are some sort of demonic thing. Strange thinking, considering if she didn't have one her face would not exist.
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  Getting the Urge!

  by Theburstbubble in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  evening folks, so as some of you may know we have recently decided to leave the witnesses and can see it for the man made organisation it is.

  so, why do i get the urge to go back and feel guilty for not being there!

  it's like my mind is telling me to be logical about it all but then something keeps pulling me back.. don't get me wrong i really want to break free from it all and i'm resisting the urge to go back as i have been miserable in the truth for a long time as i've known it's not right and want to do the best by my daughter.

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  I do understand what you are saying. Incredibly, insanely, I feel bad for what I am doing. I was raised as a JW... so from childhood, I thought this was the only truth. I still suffer a most unreasonable guilt, I don't understand it. I am getting help in the strangest ways. One of them is this forum. I can read what I like, comment, make a post.....it's called being able to ask a question or share a thought.

  I must sound like I am advertising for this site. I tell you. I joined over two years ago. I was terrified. I couldn't say anything, I was afraid of being attacked in some way. I'd had a nervous breakdown, for I had refused baptism at the last minute, so to speak.

  I was really alone. I had a feeling I would die. I know that sounds extreme, but it's what happened to me as I was finding out that I was in the right.

  Always feeling I did not do enough, forgive enough, work hard enough..........Oh, I'm ranting and will stop.

  Allow some of the humour you will find here to seep in. It was due to some incredibly funny posts that I actually joined. I think at the time, it was some really whacky comment about the .........." loving provision from jehovah re the new ipads and apps, that would allow people to view pornography while at the meetings....". This hit me with such a huge sense of mirth, that I kept reading it, and reading it. I was actually laughing for the first time in a long time........This irreverence was a wicked little secret I carried for some time. It had this amazingly freeing effect for me. Life had been so difficult and here I was with people who knew the WT for what it was. It took the RC for me to reveal one of the reasons I had sought the forum out.

  No. I don't want to hurt anyone. But I was hurting all the time.

  I do urge you to stay. There are some really good debates, some awful arguments, then things get patched up. If someone is trolling and bringing people down for the sake of it.............they soon find out that they are in the wrong company....Put up with the varying characters here. Some of them are extremely well versed in bible doctrine, some are just hurt and angry.....Stay.
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  New Child Abuse Lawsuit

  by maksutov in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  can't see this having been mentioned already - forgive me if i missed it and it is old news.. velicia alston brings lawsuit against watchtower (irwin zalkin representing):.

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=8nmgrvlmvxo.

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  It's not that old really. Consider how many cases we may not know about. Anyway, the information is important to all of us. I might not have found this had you not posted it.

  Interesting the way the society is trying to banish this case to anther jurisdiction. I hope that the change of venue for the hearing that WT were trying to achieve, failed.
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  December 15 2015 Watchtower - Blowing a Trumpet for RNWT

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  self-praise is no praise, brooklyn!

  however, having skimmed over this latest offering - which was neither researched nor written by the f.d.s., according to geoffrey jackson's sworn testimony in oz - here is my favourite statement: .

  p. 26 par.

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  Anyone checked out the "new favourite neutral expert?" The WTBTS cites Jason David Be'Duhn, as the expert in all things translation and bible.

  They cite him this Dr BeDuhn, as a bible scholar. Go and type in his name, then look at the refutations to his claims and credentials.

  He's all WTBTS pro.......they cite him as a reference of a good example of non bias.
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  Let’s Speculate!!!

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you know the organization is slowly going down.

  not as fast as we would wish, but nevertheless it is crumbling.

  five (5) year old child baptisms, smaller magazines, child sexual abuse exposed, smaller annual growth, no one wants to reach out, young ones leaving.

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  2014 for the beginning of Christ's reign; because the watchtower forgot to 'carry the 1'

  Ha ha ha ha ha ha.........love this sort of humour. It's as droll as it gets.

  You are definitely going to get roasted at the big A......