Posts by umbertoecho

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New Inactive One Saying Hello to all

by Lostwun in

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lostwun here, i joined 2 months ago but am now just finding the courage after doing more research to formally introduce myself to the board and embrace my new beginnings as an ex-jw.

i am a second-generation jw.

i grew up with parents who are well known and very respected in many circuits.

umbertoecho

Welcome Lostwun.

I hope this site helps you feel less alone.

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Beroean Pickets

by joe134cd in

hi i've been reading a web sight called borean pickets.

http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/09/may-tv-broadcast-on-tv-jw-org/.

although the guy writes some real thought provoking stuff, i sort of don't know what to make of it.

A good group and one that I agree, could be one of those sites that the org should be concerned about. They are pretty meticulous about getting to the facts or researching points that many of us have lived with and accepted.

I have watched it grow away from the official doctrines over time. They well mannered and have a font of knowledge between them...One of the writers is Alex Rover.

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Where mr jackson messes up.

by poopie in

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he is being questioned by stewart stewart ask question about df jackson says df is a bible principle notice he did not say law.

umbertoecho

But Jehovah is a God of law too. Didn't he know that? I have my little green book next to me, the one you read before you get dunked. It talks about the aspects of Jehovah.

It is a biblical law according to WTBTS. This makes it alllll better..............

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Women are Women and Men are men in the Real World , apparently not in J.W.`s world.

by smiddy in

according to j.w.`s the 144000 are a literal number of people , both men and women taken from the earth to rule with christ jesus in the heavens .this would also include judging in this role.

(see another thread about women as judges).

women in the religion of j.w.`s have no place in leadership roles ,cannot be elders , ministerial servants , or serve in any position of authority , and have no teaching voice in any congregation .. yet faithful anointed women can , upon their death rule with christ jesus in heaven for 1000 years according to j.w.

umbertoecho

Maybe they think that real humans are only the ones with..............you know what. And that therefore it is unnecessary for women to be portrayed. All those pictures are really of men and women, but the women have been graced with the male genitals.....?Sorry about that.............way too much of the old whiskey at work here...

Crap, I've no clue about what I'm talking about..........

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Can Somebody here list All The Lies and Deceptions Given at the Royal Commission , By all the J.W.`s who Appeared ?

by smiddy in

i am just wondering if somebody { who has been following the royal commission in australia can highlight all of the sleight of hand , deceptions , half truths , theocratic warfare tactics , misleading statements , untruths , omissions to the truth ,lying , feigned support for the victim , while not reporting her plight to the relevant authorities , etc.,etc.,} , can list these in one document , that would be a testament to anybody how culpable jehovah`s witnesses / wtb&ts are , in not protecting their own members , or members of the general public by not reporting such abuse to the relevant authorities ,when they had a duty to do so by law , not pertaining to mandatory reporting, but protecting the larger community .. ( i wish i wasn`t so old and had greater computer skills.).

smiddy.

umbertoecho

I've downloaded all the transcripts for further reading. Now that should be nice and revealing. Mind you. There is a collective form of amnesia in these hearings and thankfully the counsel assisting was kind enough to assist by giving the documents in hard copy complete with signatures to these men with retarded memory functions..............Good on them....the RC that is

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WARNING: SEXUAL PREDATOR ON THE LOOSE IN NEW MEXICO!

by Penelope1 in

im mad as hell!

how many times is another child molester going to get away with murder before the watchtower bible & tract society decides to do something about it?!.

a close friend who left the org.

umbertoecho

Well then........off to the police you shall go.....Don't hesitate. Worry about the religious stuff later. Get him out of the way.

I did just this, no hesitations. Really. The very next day I was at the police station filing my report, then off to the hospital....or was it the other way around...It was bad day for us.

I went into a stone cold mental place and just did it.............

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regarding Jacksons testimony.

by umbertoecho in

has anyone here re-watched that last day?

the part where justice mcclellan is asking mr jackson if he feels that this royal commission is a sincere effort to make some good changes in policy...?.

and does mr jackson feel it would be worth it to put a collective effort, along with other organizations to compensate or find means of redress, for the victims of child sexual abuse?.

umbertoecho

Just highlighted it for you Village Idiot......have a look at the whole thing if you can. It's much better than I thought when watching it on Friday.....

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regarding Jacksons testimony.

by umbertoecho in

has anyone here re-watched that last day?

the part where justice mcclellan is asking mr jackson if he feels that this royal commission is a sincere effort to make some good changes in policy...?.

and does mr jackson feel it would be worth it to put a collective effort, along with other organizations to compensate or find means of redress, for the victims of child sexual abuse?.

umbertoecho

Angus OWNED jackson in that moment and I believe he did it for us. Jackson must've felt like he just got ate by a wolf and sh*t over a cliff! We owe him one!!

True so true Dumplin. I just couldn't see it on that actual day. I was too invested in seeing the" Mouth" roasted over a pit (very bad attitude) I forgot the subtlety of Angus Stewart........

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regarding Jacksons testimony.

by umbertoecho in

has anyone here re-watched that last day?

the part where justice mcclellan is asking mr jackson if he feels that this royal commission is a sincere effort to make some good changes in policy...?.

and does mr jackson feel it would be worth it to put a collective effort, along with other organizations to compensate or find means of redress, for the victims of child sexual abuse?.

umbertoecho

"yes yes continue"... still looking down and fumbling with some papers.

Wasn't that a delicious moment Dumplin !!

I had been too emotional to appreciate it at the time. It was only after I was phoned by one of the team and set into calmness, that I was able to put some rationality back. I had missed so much in that first wonderful platform that was the Mouth of GB Jackson.

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regarding Jacksons testimony.

by umbertoecho in

has anyone here re-watched that last day?

the part where justice mcclellan is asking mr jackson if he feels that this royal commission is a sincere effort to make some good changes in policy...?.

and does mr jackson feel it would be worth it to put a collective effort, along with other organizations to compensate or find means of redress, for the victims of child sexual abuse?.

umbertoecho

I am wondering if Angus' turning his back was deliberate. I think it was. It was a tactic to let Jackson know he's nothing special to the RC and to see if it flustered him. It told the RC plenty.

I was so beautifully done that i had to watch it all over again....just waiting for that moment and the 34.39 minute section. Angus was on to him in a huge way, he was so wonderfully dismissive as he consulted his assistant and leafed through documents, as though nothing of great significance coming out of the Mouth GB Jackson, was too difficult to put into a back ground noise...........as he searched for more interesting info.......

OutLaw, As usual your irreverence is totally awesome. I love your visuals.....really do. I think it was one of your earliest posts that had me laughing so much........I joined up