Posts by ellderwho

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Scholar JM.

by Narkissos in

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don't know if anybody noticed yet, but i just realised that on january 1st our resident scholar finally graduated as (jedi) master on jwd.... 1000 posts, how many hundreds of "70 years of exile and desolation," "wiley apostates," "brilliant nwt" and "celebrated wt scholars"?.

let's make it happen.

let's have one "celebrated wt scholar".. congrats scholar!.

ellderwho

Atta boy Scholar.

Truley worlds will collide if I see AlanF post a "congratulate scholar"

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Desolation of Jerusalem

by Alwayshere in

using the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.

add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.

the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.

ellderwho

The twenty year gap problem exists because apostates and higher critics choose men's theories over God's Word so it is a matter of choice. You make yours and I make mine.

You have not made a choice. You are compelled to believe what your told. Plus you've been shown your problem in that you cannot reach 539 with your kings list. What will you do with that information? You will exhange the truth for the lie.

If you can reach 539 prove it, or live the lie.

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Desolation of Jerusalem

by Alwayshere in

using the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.

add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.

the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.

ellderwho

elderwho
You can easily see that the secular data for the Neo-Babylonian period is very problematic especially with the case of two of those monarchs not withstanding Nebuchadenezzer's missing 'seven' years and the 'twenty year' gap. The whole thing is a 'dogs breakfast' so it is best to stick to Jehovah's organization and his sacred Word.
scholar JW

Thats pretty funny! Being problematic is what you put your faith in. Which makes your kings rule and years that you add up for 1914 is very probelmatic at the very least. As well as the fact that gentiles where still in Jerusalem past 1914. The twenty year gap is you and your organizations problem not mine. And you know you need to find somewhere to hang 20 years on. Thats the real issue nothing more. But you will sidestep this because you have to. Its rather telling how much you need the 20 years and you and the org. are desperate to hang on to it. And you will.

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Desolation of Jerusalem

by Alwayshere in

using the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.

add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.

the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.

ellderwho

elderwho There is no great difficulty in reconstructing a schema for the Babylonian dynasty from 625 to 539 BCE. Wt chronology presents the reigns of these rulers in accordance with the secular records beginning with Neb's first year, Nisan 624

What, there is none, anyway:

: Nebuchadnezzer reigned 43 years fro Nisan 624-582

Okay.

Evil Merodach reigns of 2 and 18 years proposed,- 581 -?

Reigns? Whadya mean reigns, Proposed? What, by whom? 581 and a question mark? Huh?

Neriglissar reigns of 2, 4, 18 years proposed ?

What, more reigns? 2,4,18 whadya mean proposed?

labashi-Marduk reign of 9 months - ?

Desolation of Jerusalem

by Alwayshere in

using the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.

add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.

the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.

ellderwho

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/79647/4.ashx

The above is Neils/scholars celebrated kings list.

elderwho There is no great difficulty in reconstructing a schema for the Babylonian dynasty from 625 to 539 BCE. Wt chronology presents the reigns of these rulers in accordance with the secular records beginning with Neb's first year, Nisan 624 ending with Belshazzar in Tishri,539. Similarly, a comprehensive chart for the Divided Monarchy is presented in the Aid and Insight Volumes and one can see the names of the Judean kings who reigned in Judah during that period 625-539 BCE of sum 86 years. These were Jehoiakim, Jehoiachin and Zedekiah. WT chronology has established the reigns for the Neo-Bablonian dynasty beginning with Nebuchadnezzar: Nebuchadnezzer reigned 43 years fro Nisan 624-582 Evil Merodach reigns of 2 and 18 years proposed,- 581 -? Neriglissar reigns of 2, 4, 18 years proposed ? labashi-Marduk reign of 9 months - ? Nabonidus reign of 17 years - 566- 539 There is only some certainty of 60 years with a shortfall of 26 from the biblical data for the Judean reigns of 18 years and exile of 68 years, a total of 86 years. Jehoiakim reigned 11 years from 628 - 618 Jehoiachin reigned 3 months ending in 617 Zedekiah reigned 11 years from 617 -607 The length of the Judean kings is some 22 years up to the fall of Jerusalem in 607. Your turn to supply a chronology of the Divided Monarchy? scholar BA MA Studies in Religion

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Desolation of Jerusalem

by Alwayshere in

using the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.

add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.

the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.

ellderwho

Frankly, I cannot be bothered with your childish requests for something that you can already create with the data provided in WT publications.

This is my point genius. You cannot create a list and you know it. So my friend you are in "check mate" by your inability to produce said list.

There's eight pages of your nonsense/smoke and mirror, with no final product. Just like the Tower.

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Desolation of Jerusalem

by Alwayshere in

using the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.

add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.

the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.

ellderwho

This you posted in another thread:

elderwho
I have already posted a regnal list for the Neo-Babylonian monarchy and this has already been posted here based on WT publications namely the Insight volumes. The article under 'Chronology' has also a list of kings for the Divide Monarchy so we have publiched all the information that you reguire. It appears that you have not followed my five year long defence of our chronology as you claim so perhaps you are walking in the path of self-delusion.

Then you post:

You seem to hung up over the king-list but for the purpose of biblical chronology, celebrated WT scholars have deemed such a list as unnecessary and irrelevant as it does not fit into our methodology

Which is it?

Oh I know:

Scholar: "there is no list for the Babylonian kings presented in tabulated form,"

Hmmmmm.

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Desolation of Jerusalem

by Alwayshere in

using the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.

add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.

the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.

ellderwho

You seem to hung up over the king-list but for the purpose of biblical chronology, celebrated WT scholars have deemed such a list as unnecessary and irrelevant as it does not fit into our methodology.

This is where the arguement really cannot go on any further. You claim the list is unnecessary because it does not fit the method. Well, whats that tell ya genius?

Gee lets see if I got it, a kings list that doesnt exist, to explain rulership years that do.

However, if it is so important to you why dont't you on the basis of information published by the Society construct your own list and then you will be happy. I wish you well in your project.

Ive tried to do this with my elder stepfather with a masters in criminology- study and he was unable to do so. So How smart do you have to be to connect the dots of the WT kings years and rule?

He went so far as to order the book by AK Robertson, referenced by the WT in the insight vol. and guess what? It does not agree with the WT, it gives contradicting information.

As you say in recent publications there is no list for the Babylonian kings presented in tabulated form,

But you said you posted one already remember?

the reason for this is because the data is simply unreliable and any dates posted to certain Babylonian kings are determined from our carefully crafted chronology.

Are you smokin something good here? You just admitted you dont have a chronology.

Look;

celebrated WT scholars have deemed such a list as unnecessary

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Desolation of Jerusalem

by Alwayshere in

using the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.

add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.

the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.

ellderwho

As I stated in another thread re: Scholar/Neil Your arguement is still from silience. As is the Towers. Because neither of the aforementioned have a workable kings list.(final product)

So all the banter, really becomes a mute point on Neils behalf because for your chronology to stand there has to be a final product.

You have failed to show a final product. Just like the Towers.

I would take your arguement serious as Im sure others would if you at least had a final product (workable kings list).

Ah but you dont, so why should anyone consider your position.

Isnt it ironic that in the insight volumes and all the WT literature, a workable kings list with years is all over the place with no real laid out diagram showing in plain text for review. Just like you Neil.

NO LIST. IS STILL NO LIST.

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Desolation of Jerusalem

by Alwayshere in

using the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.

add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.

the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.

ellderwho

Our methodology and interpretation is superior to that of modern scholars because we have revelation form God

You've got to be posting from some small office at Watchtower Headquarters in NY. Cus brotha you havin delusions.

PS. Where's your kings list?