Trinity Brochure is a great way to get to someone.

by ithinkisee 2 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  ithinkisee

  Tell me if this makes sense:

  The Anti_Nicene fathers are almost always represented positively in the Society literature. The Society has alluded to Jehovah's spirit being there when they decided what books were to make up the bible.

  So regarding the Trinity in the brochure Should You Believe The Trinity they shamelessly misquote the Anti-Nicene fathers writings.

  With many old secular references the Society quotes from in their articles, it is hard to actually find many of them nowadays. Not so with the Anti-Nicene Fathers.

  All of their writings are available online (on a non-apostate site no less!):
  http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/

  And to make matters easier, the Critical Analysis site has pulled all the misquotes and shown how the Society blatantly and offensively misrepresented the Anti-Nicene fathers:
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/7831/booklet2.html

  (For those who don't know ... the Anti-Nicene Fathers actually SUPPORTED the Trinity doctrine and determined that those who relegated Jesus to just a "powerful angel" was an apostasy from Truth.)

  So ... grab the quotes from Critical Analysis site, tweak the verbiage in the comments to match your style ... and send or present the information to someone, and show them the ACTUAL writings on the web of the Anti-Nicene fathers ... that it is not some grand scheme but simple misrepresentation on the part of the Society ... and how it pisses you off and hurts you that you have been deliberately deceived.

  -ithinkisee
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  Leolaia

  Yup, the Trinity broshure was my ticket out of the borg. I already knew what the Fathers said from my own reading, and I was positively appalled at what the Society did, and realized that everyone else didn't know any better and swallowed this dishonest swill as spiritual food.
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  ezekiel3

  These is also a previous page that shreads the Trinity brochure's lack of context. Excellent resource.

  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/7831/booklet1.html

  Example:

  p.4 - ENCYCLOPEDIA AMERICANA

  Booklet:"the doctrine of the Trinity is considered to be 'beyond the grasp of human reason'."

  Source: The complete quote is:

  "It is held that ALTHOUGH the doctrine is beyond the grasp of human reason, it is, like many of the formulations of physical science, not contrary to reason, and may be apprehended (though it may not be comprehended) by the human mind."
  (So the Encyclopedia is comparing the degrees of mental perception, apprehension vs. comprehension, and does not state that the doctrine is "contrary" to reason - but BEYOND our fullest understanding.)
  The Watchtower writers also ignored a statement on the same page of the Encyclopedia that disputes the idea that the Trinity doctrine is pagan. It says:
  "It is probably a mistake to assume that the doctrine resulted from the intrusion of Greek metaphysics or philosophy into Christian thought; for the date upon which the doctrine rests, and also its earliest attempts at formulation, are much older than the church's encounter with Greek philosophy."

  Now compare what the Theocratic Ministry School guidebook has to say about quoting in context:

  *** be study 40 p. 225 Accuracy of Statement ***

  Checking

  the Accuracy of Information. Current events, quotations, and experiences can be helpful when you are illustrating and applying certain points. How can you be sure that they are accurate? One way is by extracting such items from reliable sources. Remember to check that the information is up-to-date. Statistics become obsolete; scientific discoveries are quickly surpassed; and as man grows in understanding of history and ancient languages, conclusions based on previous knowledge need to be revised. Exercise great caution if you are thinking of using information from newspapers, television, radio, electronic mail, or the Internet. Proverbs 14:15 counsels: "Anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps." Ask yourself: 'Does the source have a reputation for accuracy? Can the information be verified by some other means?' If you doubt the truthfulness of an item, discard it.

  In addition to checking the reliability of the sources, consider carefully how you plan to use the information. Make sure that your use of quotations and statistics harmonizes with the context from which they are taken. In an effort to express yourself forcefully, be careful that "some people" does not become "the majority of people," that "many people" does not become "everyone," and that "in some cases" does not become "always." Overstating matters or exaggerating reports involving number, extent, or seriousness raises questions of credibility.

  When you are consistently accurate in what you say, you will come to be known as a person who respects truth. This reflects well on Jehovah's Witnesses as a group. More important, it honors "Jehovah the God of truth."-Ps. 31:5.

  Damned by their own words.