by jschwehm 8 Replies latest jw friends
Hi Gang:
There is a link from my website to an interesting new article on the Kingdom Interlinear and how the JWs, ironically may actually be hiding the Divine Name.
Here is the link to the article:
http://www.catholicxjw.com/doctrines.html
Just click on the Hiding the Divine Name Link at the top of the page.
Jeff Schwehm
I loved the link thank you js!
I found this link which is also useful in discussing the occurences or lack thereof of the divine name in greek.
Yes, The link reveals the many occasions when the Watchtower only uses those bits of the J-references that support its theology, but rejects those parts of the same sources that do not.
However, the catholic link is also misleading, because it gives credibility to the same J-refernces in the New Testament. If we want authenticity, rather than pro or anti trinitarian bias, we should use only the ancientIns manuscript copies of the Greek Christian scripyures as accurate sources of the inspired writings.
We then find that in reality, other than in the example in Revelation of Alleluia or praise Jah, the Divine name does not appear at all. In the New Testament, the inspired authors used Kyrios (Lord) in every one of the 5,000 surviving ancient manuscripts. We should ignore all J references as these are modern (post 14th century) translations from the ancient Greek manuscripts.
Suggested reading from free booklets on www.tetragrammaton.org
Jeff,
Thanks again for this link. The one about a heavenly hope for Old Testament saints is really useful. Haven't checked the rest yet.
About my earlier post, although I dont like to use any J references, (too modern and potentially biased) the ancient Greek manuscripts themselves make it very clear that Jesus Christ has Divinity.
My wife is a catholic, as I was. Never comfortable about worshiping or praying to Mary, or anyone other than God/Christ. What do you think?
However, the catholic link is also misleading
The "Catholic link" is only a modern one made by scholars such as the translators of the abhorrent NAB.
Jaffacake,
The following links might be of interest for your present research:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/74554/1.ashx
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/74798/1.ashx
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/74993/1.ashx
Thanks yet again Narkissos.
The problem is that people are using J-references to suggest the original authors used the Tetragrammaton in the Christian Greek Scriptures. This just did not happen. We now have more than 5,000 ancient Greek manuscripts, all of which use Lord or Theos, and none of which used the Tetragrammaton, or even a Greek equivalent. This says something about what the inspired authors were trying to tell us.
The oldest of the ancient manuscripts, or fragments, date back to just 25 years after the death of the author of Revelation. Still no Tetragrammaton. Very few of these ancient manuscripts had been discovered in the 1940s when the NWT was produced.
All the J-references are translations of ancient Greek manuscripts into Hebrew between 1385 CE (mostly 1599CE) until the 20th century. These inserted the Tetragrammaton in place of the original Lord, usually to convince Messianic Jews that Jahweh and Jesus were one and the same. Many of the J referenced make it clear that Jesus and Jehovah are one entity. But the J references are inaccurate translations so cannot be relied on by WTS or Catholics.
That leaves us with over 5,000 ancient Greek manuscripts which predate all J references by more than 1000 years. All these use Lord for both Jehovah and Jesus, whether we like it or not. We can draw our own conclusions.
I have ordered a kingdom interlinear Bible. This clearly leads to J reference Hebrew translations wose headings clearly state Trinitarian Society.
That does not make those translations accurate. As I said, we should rely only on the thousands of ancient Greek manuscripts and what does that give us???
Pretty much the New Jerusalem Bible - Yahweh in the OT and Lord in the NT - just what the inspired authors wrote.
