Last Sunday's WT-study feb 15 p. 19

by Samuel Thorsen 5 Replies latest jw friends

  • Samuel Thorsen
    Samuel Thorsen

    Does anyone have this mag i English?

    Then please type for us the question for paragraph 10 page 19. It's amazing in Norwegian...

  • blondie

    10 Strong faith is built on knowledge. "Faith follows the thing heard," stated Paul. (Romans 10:17) What did he mean by that? He meant that by feeding on God's Word, we build our faith and confidence in Jehovah, his promises, and his organization. Asking honest questions about the Bible can lead to reassuring answers. Furthermore, at Romans 12:2, we find the advice of Paul: "Prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God." Just how can we achieve that? By gaining "the accurate knowledge of the truth." (Titus 1:1) Jehovah's spirit can help us to comprehend even difficult subjects. (1 Corinthians 2:11, 12) We should pray for God's help when we are having problems understanding something. (Psalm 119: 10, 11, 27) Jehovah wants us to understand his Word, believe it, and obey it. He welcomes honest questions asked with the right motive.

    Knowledge? as selected and prepared by the WTS

    Feeding on God?s Word? which can only be explained by the WTS

    Faith and confidence in?his organization? in Jehovah and his promises which can only be explained by the WTS

    Honest questions about the Bible? but the WTS decides if they are honest.

    Jehovah?s spirit can help us to comprehend even difficult subjects? but only through the WTS which tells you that anyone outside the organization cannot have access to God?s spirit.

    Pray for God?s help? but go to the WTS publications and the elders for answers

    Understand his Word, believe it, and obey it? or understand the WT doctrines, believe them, and obey them?

    He welcomes honest questions asked with the right motive? who do you ask, the elders, the CO/DO, write to Bethel? Who answers?

    But be careful, asking questions may lead a person to be labeled an apostate.

    w98 8/15 p. 20 Strengthening Our Confidence in God?s Righteousness ***

    Jehovah?s organization does not discourage sincere, timely questions, as some opposers mistakenly claim. (1 Peter 1:10-12) However, the Bible counsels that we avoid foolish, speculative questions. (Titus 3:9) Asking reasonable questions and searching God?s Word and Christian publications to find Scriptural answers can increase our accurate knowledge and can thus strengthen our confidence in Jehovah. The organization follows the example of Jesus. He refrained from commenting on questions for which the proper time for answering had not arrived. He explained: "I have many things yet to say to you, but you are not able to bear them at present." (John 16:12) He also admitted that some things he himself did not know at that point.?Matthew 24:36.

    So the organization will decide if the questions is timely, foolish, speculative, reasonable and compares itself to the Son of God in being able to decide when it is time to answer a question.

  • iiz2cool
    Jehovah?s spirit can help us to comprehend even difficult subjects?but only through the WTS which tells you that anyone outside the organization cannot have access to God?s spirit.

    Even within the organization only the Governing Body have access to God's spirit. Everyone else has access only to their publications.


  • bonnzo

    what is the right motive? to find the true answer, right? what if it doesn't agree with what thw wts says? what then? agree or else?

  • Es

    How can they know what your right motive is? Maybe you do have a right motive but coz it raises valid points bout the organization they dont want to know bout then they can just say well you dont have the right motive.

    what a load of crap

  • OldSoul
    iiz2cool: Even within the organization only the Governing Body have access to God's spirit. Everyone else has access only to their publications.

    Would that it was so simple. The members of the Governing Body do not claim to have any special direction from holy spirit, nor do they state that any of the Faithful and Discreet Slave? (All Rights Reserved, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc.) have any special direction from holy spirit.

    They teach that the Holy Spirit does not operate in such a direct way anymore, although there is no indication in the Bible of it ever working in any other way. They teach that Holy Spirit is now guiding an organization, thus the term "spirit-directed organization" (see the two questions asked of baptismal candidates since 1985). While the Catholic church injects a person or two between the individual and Christ, Jehovah's Witnesses inject a huge, ungainly, nebulously defined organization between the individual and Christ.

    The Greek Scriptures from Bible direct people to three sources for knowledge and understanding: prayer, Holy Spirit, and study of the Bible. At no time does the Bible direct persons to either the Governing Body or to a Faithful and Discreet Slave for knowledge and understanding.

    On one occasion, in the book of Ephesians, Paul mentioned that things would be made known through the congregation...but the books of both Ephesians and 1 Corinthians show plainly how that knowledge would be made known. It did not take the form of regular communications from the Governing Body handed down, sometimes directly and sometimes through District or Lesser Overseers, to the lowly elder bodies as directives for the (even lowlier) publishers.

    Regarding the Faithful and Discreet Slave, we lowly publishers are presented with a true logical dilemma. It could even be appropriately referred to as a conundrum, since conjecture is the only source for an answer. Identifying the brothers of Christ is presented in the Bible as a requirement for salvation yet we have no means to identify them except as a group.

    In the First Century, the brothers of Christ were reportedly known to each other through gifts of the spirit. We have the example of Cornelius and his family who were only baptized after Peter and those with him recognized that they were among the brothers of the Christ. How did Peter recognize them? Was it by their piety? By their kindness? By their long-suffering? How about by their love?

    Their identifcation of Christ's brothers was easily obtained because, to quote a common reference work that describes the occasion, "the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God."

    After that, Peter reportedly said, "Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?" Let's see, if memory serves that is recorded somewhere in or about Acts 10. And thus, the other sheep-the Gentiles-began to be gathered. (John 10:16)

    How did First Century Christians recognize Christ's brothers? If, in our day, I must discern them-although in the First Century each individual's identity as one of Christ's brothers was patently obvious-what conclusion must I arrive at?

    This: If the Bible is to be believed, then the wheat is still growing with the weeds, which would mean we are still in the throes of the Apostasy. It is either prideful or wishful thinking to arrive at any other conclusion. The apostasizing of the WTS away from scriptural truths is no different from that of any other organized religion in our day.

    Attaching the organization to the UN/DPI as an Affiliate, an Associate, a Partner, or anything else met the criteria for diassociation according to both OM and OD.

    When the Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses? (Patent Pending, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc.) disassociated itself from its own teachings for 10 years (a full one-fifteenth of its "modern-day" existence), to where did it go away? That is the question they ask others, isn't it?


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