Are any aware of similarities between JW's and the Mad Scientologists

by Check_Your_Premises 6 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Check_Your_Premises
    Check_Your_Premises

    I was just curious if any here had familiarity with both cults. My wife is involved with the jw's, and my sister used to be a scientologist. I was telling my sister about the various, dubious aspects of the jw religion, and she just couldn't stop laughing at the remarkable similarities.

    For example, they don't have meetings all week, they have "classes".

    If you miss the classes, you will get phone calls to see if "everything is ok".

    If you fall out of favor with the organization, you may be "declared" (this is the same as df)

    People who want to leave, but want to avoid being "declared", "slink away"

    If you take any psychology classes (this would be equivalent to going to a church in Satan's organization), you would have to submit to some special "auditing". (this would be equivalent to being grilled by the elders)

    So I figured I would open the floor to any who would like to share their thoughts.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    "Opposers" are to be viewed with suspicion, and not to be trusted. This includes abused ex-wives (if they also abandon the society), child victims of paedophiles (if they leave the abuser AND the society).

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan

    Scientologists have a very heavy hitting legal department.

  • Poztate
    Poztate
    So I figured I would open the floor to any who would like to share their thoughts.

    It does sound like just another bunch of control freaks to me. I am sick of organizations and people that feel the need to control me.

    I don't like religion,politicians or bosses at work. I guess I am just an old grumpy fart... Works for me.

  • bikerchic
    bikerchic

    C_Y_P hubby and I had an experience we posted about here:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/44403/1.ashx

    Lots of information on this thread about Scientologists aka: The Landmark Forum check it out.

    Kate

  • Swan
    Swan

    I saw a TV documentary about a year and a half ago on them. It was 2 hours in length and appeared on either, Discovery, History Channel, A&E, or one of those other late night documentary channels. The most amazing part of the show was when the Scientologist "elders" started following the film crew everywhere. They even said there was a bit of a freeway chase as they tried to elude their "tail." It would have been unbelievable, except I knew that JW elders have been seen on stakeouts too.

    I don't know what Nicole Kidman's official status is, but I hear that she and Tom Cruise split because she wanted out of the Scientologists among other reasons. So apparently they are really good at breaking up families, just like the JWs.

    Tammy

  • bikerchic
    bikerchic

    Another cult to stay away from is Assembly of God churches. My daughter's sister in law and her husband were in it for several years and eventually had to be disfellowshiped to escape it! She was raised for a while as a JW and eventually saw how controling AoG became to every aspect of their lives. Her story about being part of that church made the JW's look tame.

    Here is an example off google on just one of hundreds of pages of Assembly of God's churches:

    We Believe ...

    1. WE BELIEVE... The Scriptures are Inspired by God and declare His design and plan for mankind.

    2. WE BELIEVE... There is only One True God ?revealed in three persons...Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (commonly known as the Trinity).

    3. WE BELIEVE... In the Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ . As God's son Jesus was both human and divine .

    4. WE BELIEVE...though originally good, Man Willingly Fell to Sin ?ushering evil and death, both physical and spiritual, into the world.

    5. WE BELIEVE... Every Person Can Have Restored Fellowship with God Through 'Salvation' (accepting Christ's offer of forgiveness for sin). [1 of 4 cardinal doctrines of the A/G]

    6. WE BELIEVE...and practice two ordinances?(1) Water Baptism by Immersion after repenting of one's sins and receiving Christ's gift of salvation, and (2) Holy Communion (the Lord's Supper) as a symbolic remembrance of Christ's suffering and death for our salvation.

    7. WE BELIEVE... the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is a Special Experience Following Salvation that empowers believers for witnessing and effective service, just as it did in New Testament times. [1 of 4 cardinal doctrines of the A/G]

    8. WE BELIEVE... The Initial Physical Evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is ?Speaking in Tongues,' as experienced on the Day of Pentecost and referenced throughout Acts and the Epistles.

    9. WE BELIEVE... Sanctification Initially Occurs at Salvation and is not only a declaration that a believer is holy, but also a progressive lifelong process of separating from evil as believers continually draw closer to God and become more Christlike.

    10. WE BELIEVE... The Church has a Mission to seek and save all who are lost in sin . We believe 'the Church' is the Body of Christ and consists of the people who, throughout time, have accepted God's offer of redemption (regardless of religious denomination) through the sacrificial death of His son Jesus Christ.

    11. WE BELIEVE... A Divinely Called and Scripturally Ordained Leadership Ministry Serves the Church . The Bible teaches that each of us under leadership must commit ourselves to reach others for Christ, to worship Him with other believers, and to build up or edify the body of believers?the Church.

    12. WE BELIEVE... Divine Healing of the Sick is a Privilege for Christians Today and is provided for in Christ's atonement (His sacrificial death on the cross for our sins). [1 of 4 cardinal doctrines of the A/G]

    13. WE BELIEVE...in The Blessed Hope?When Jesus Raptures His Church Prior to His Return to Earth (the second coming). At this future moment in time all believers who have died will rise from their graves and will meet the Lord in the air, and Christians who are alive will be caught up with them, to be with the Lord forever. [1 of 4 cardinal doctrines of the A/G]

    14. WE BELIEVE...in The Millennial Reign of Christ when Jesus returns with His saints at His second coming and begins His benevolent rule over earth for 1,000 years. At that time many in the nation of Israel will recognize and accept Him as the Messiah, the Savior who died for them and all mankind.

    15. WE BELIEVE... A Final Judgment Will Take Place for those who have rejected Christ. They will be judged for their sin and consigned to eternal punishment in a punishing lake of fire.

    16. WE BELIEVE...and look forward to the perfect New Heavens and a New Earth that Christ is preparing for all people, of all time, who have accepted Him. We will live and dwell with Him there forever following His millennial reign on Earth. 'And so shall we forever be with the Lord!'

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