JW and Gay Prisoners in Nazi Concen. Camps

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    waiting

    Hello,

    Just came across this essay entitled in full, Gay Prisoners in Concentration Camps as Compared with Jehovah's Witnesses and Political Prisoners" By Ruedilger Lautmann, Sociologist

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    "Gay Prisoners in Concentration Camps as Compared with Jehovah's
    Witnesses and Political Prisoners

    Ruediger Lautmann

    Historians in Germany argue about how universal the historical
    character of national socialism was. One conservative faction
    would like to view the communist system as responsible for fascism.
    Because Marxism was victorious in Russia, the Fascist parties were
    able to win in Italy and Germany. This speculation claims that the
    destruction of social class distinctions by the Bolsheviks prepared
    the way for racial murders of the Nazis. The extermination of the
    Jews is presented as a distorted copy of a previous model, rather
    than as a unique occurrence. Other social scientists have
    protested against viewing Nazi crimes in such a relativistic way.
    They see an aura of normality being created and fear that the basic
    anti fascist consensus in the Federal republic might end. They are
    also apprehensive about the analogy to current politics and warn
    against a restoration by means of history.

    The dispute concerns the question: Is the Holocaust continuous with
    the rest of European history, or does it represent a unique event,
    a break in the continuum of history? Such exciting and dangerous
    speculation belongs to a sort of metaphysical thinking that has a
    long tradition in German historiography. As a sociologist, I would
    like to take a more modest starting point: Is what the Nazis did to
    their internal enemies unique or totally surprising?

    Investigating concentration camps from a sociological perspective,
    one does not confront a phenomenon that is singular and
    interesting, while at the same time ordinary and banal. No special
    attention is given to the "actors of history." Investigation into
    the structure and procedures of the concentration camps inevitably
    leads to comparison with other institutionS and some form of
    differentiation. A morsel of normality is discovered in the
    atrocities, without in the least belittling them.

    Regarding Nazi atrocities in this way has its price; it represses
    emotion. It focuses on details, rather than on the Holocaust as a
    whole. Understanding the preconditions of a terror means studying
    its construction, develop ment, and operation in detail. In this
    essay, I would like to consider the aims of the terror and
    concentrate on the non-Jewish categories of prisoners, using
    homosexuals as an example.

    Extermination or Reeducation? The concentration camp was one
    weapon in the campaign to bring state and society into conformity
    with fascism. If physical extermination formed the most frightful
    instrument of that policy, it was not the only one. A range of
    attempts were made to isolate people and to use fear to inhibit
    "undesirable" behavior. Whatever the reasons for imprisonment, all
    incarcerations were the result of Nazi ideology and posed a danger
    to the prisoner's life. The categories of prisoners differed from
    one another in how they were selected and treated. Those groups
    whom the Nazis deemed inimical but not racially undesirable were
    not completely rounded up, but taken only in random samples They
    also fared differently within the camps. Homosexuals, political
    prisoners, and Jehovah's Witnesses are among the groups who were
    sent to the concentration camps for reeducation. They were
    supposed to renounce their particular orientation. The very fact
    of their incarceration restrained their ideological comrades
    outside the camps from becoming active in the struggle against
    Nazism.

    Democratic freedom makes pluralism possible. In democracies,
    deviations from the norm concern not only criminality but also
    sexuality, ethnicity, religion, and attitudes toward work. The
    Nazi system was concerned with deviations in all these areas. It
    classified political, sexual, religious, and working-attitude
    deviations in separate categories. In all probability, the
    Hitlerian state required these definitions of the enemy and was, in
    its own terms, correct in its choice of these groups. Within a
    society, minority and separationist groups represent a seedbed of
    possible revolt. Homosexuality has always and everywhere existed.
    Hitler considered homosexuality as a predisposition that could not
    be changed. It was assumed that a homosexual orientation could not
    be eliminated, that only its manifestations could be blocked.
    Thus, the pink triangle worn by the homosexual in the concentration
    camp represented the Nazis' intention to reeducate him. Severe
    measures were in fact intended only as behavioristic conditioning:
    a way to cause unlearning through aversion.

    No credence was placed in a simple change of opinion by
    homosexuals, such as was granted to Jehovah's Witnesses, who were
    not taken entirely seriously, or even to political prisoners. Two
    categories were seen among homosexuals: the constitutionally
    hard-boiled homosexual and the occasional offender. Since in
    neither case was the Aryan status of the homosexual in doubt, all
    could remain alive. If necessary, homosexuals were to be
    castrated, but they were permitted to continue to work. As a
    matter of policy, extermination was therefore restrained. In
    practice there were other contrary impulses on the part of the SS,
    and those who wore the pink triangle met an unusually harsh fate.
    The social controls directed at homosexuals within the camp
    represented a continuation and an intensification of social
    controls imposed by society at large.

    Continuity of Social Control At the beginning of this essay, I
    mentioned the questionable attempt of some historians to deny the
    uniqueness of the Third Reich, to historicise it and to externalize
    responsibility. This approach has nothing to do with the
    connection I would like to establish here between society as a
    whole and society inside the camps. This continuity remains within
    the German context and does not seek its origins outside the
    frontiers of the Reich. The concentration camp was an extreme
    instance of social control. It mixed ordinary and singular
    characteristics of social regulation. For example, it was and is
    "normal" to categorize and stigmatize people; it is "singular" to
    ascribe total uselessness to a certain group. It is "normal" to
    organize the life of an inmate; it is "singular" to view the life
    of a prisoner as being of almost no value. It is "normal" to
    devalue homosexual activities and to impose certain disadvantages
    on those who engage in them; it is "singular" to impose this
    devaluation by physical force and without constitutional
    procedures. It is "normal" (up to the present day) to stigmatize
    homosexuals; it is "singular" to attempt to eliminate homosexual
    life-styles and to destroy the subculture completely by organizing
    police raids.

    The closer a prisoner's category was to the heart of Nazi ideology,
    the more dangerous his circumstances in the camp. Furthermore, the
    more repressively a group was controlled in society, the harder the
    fate of its members within the camp. Increasing the number of
    those sentenced, and imposing stricter rules in the military and
    party organizations, was followed by an increased death rate in the
    camp. The more marginal the social position of a group, the more
    marginal their position was within the camp.

    The prisoners with the pink triangle had certainly shown "precamp"
    qualities of survival, but they did not get a chance to apply these
    qualities in the camp. Because their subculture and organizations
    outside had been wantonly destroyed, no group solidarity developed
    inside the camp. Since outside the concentration camp homosexuals
    were regarded as effete, they were given no tasks of
    self-administration inside the camps. Since every contact outside
    was regarded as suspicious, homosexuals did not even dare to speak
    to one another inside (as numerous survivors have reported in
    interviews). Since homosexuals were generally regarded as
    worthless, their fellow prisoners had a lower regard for them.
    Thus, few accounts of the pink triangles exist, and those that do
    exist have a spiteful flavor.

    Differences between Prisoner Categories To regard the prisoners
    according to their categories means distinguishing between major
    and minor sufferings. Is that permissible? We could even ask: Is
    social science still possible after Auschwitz? Nevertheless,
    various developments have virtually given a positive answer to
    these questions. After 1945 differences in the fate of different
    groups of prisoners have been recognized by differences in
    compensation. Research, too, has given varying degrees of
    attention to the different groups of victims. The color of the
    assigned triangle (i.e., the prisoner category) was the basis for a
    collective fate.

    In my empirical research, I have sifted all extant documents to
    examine the names and data on all concentration camp prisoners
    registered as being homosexual.' I found the data for about 1,500
    homosexuals (This is a complete survey of the quite incomplete
    documents). I chose as control groups Jehovah's Witnesses (about
    750) and political prisoners (200). Each category of prisoner
    seemed to possess a characteristic social profile. If we look at
    the distribution according to age upon committal to a camp, the
    Jehovah's Witnesses predominate in the somewhat older age group
    (from 35), and the homosexuals in the second somewhat younger one
    (20-35). Committal figures have regular curves, which are quite
    different for the three groups. For homosexuals the year 1942
    marks the peak (with a quarter of all committals), and for
    Jehovah's Witnesses the years 1937 and 1938 (half of all
    committals) are the peaks. The committal figures for the
    politicals remain at the same level, with a slight rise toward the
    year 1944. The death rate for homosexual prisoners (60 percent)
    was one and a half times as high as for political prisoners (41
    percent) and Jehovah's Witnesses (35 percent). Some background
    variables, such as professional status, [continued after table
    20.1]

    TABLE 20.1
    Death Rate According to Category and Professional Status
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Lower Lower Middle All
    Classes Middle and Above (%)
    (%) (%) (%)

    Homosexuals 54.6 52.6 50.1 53.0
    (328) (114) (219) (661)

    Jehovah's 34.5 36.6 34.6 34.7
    Witnesses (374) (52) (81) (507)

    Politicals 40.2 38.9 42.9 40.5
    (122) (18) (28) (168)
    -------------------------------------------------------------

    Note: Figures in parentheses are based on social groups of a
    prisoner category, insofar as its fate is known (dead, liberated,
    or released).

    marital status, and number of children, have been considered. Thus
    far, the individual variables tested do not cancel the connection
    between the victim group and the risk of death. Reading the many
    reports and asking the prisoners' committees (which still exist
    today) about the prisoners with the pink triangles, one repeatedly
    learns that they were there, but nobody can tell you anything about
    them. Quantitative analysis offers a sad explanation for the
    extraordinary lack of visibility: the individual pink-triangle
    prisoner was likely to live for only a short time in the camp and
    then to disappear from the scene. After four months, one in four
    had left; after a year, one in two. It was otherwise for the
    Jehovah Witnesses and politicals: after a year four out of five and
    two out of three, respectively, were still in the camp. This
    thinning out is due to deaths: three out of four deaths among the
    homosexuals occurred within the first year after their committal.
    In comparison with the red and violet triangles, the pink triangle
    seems to signify a category of less value. The destinies of Jews
    and homosexuals within the camp approximate each other. In the
    concentration camp, both groups found themselves at the bottom of
    the current hierarchy below the non-Jewish racially defined groups
    of prisoners.

    The collective devaluation of the wearers of certain triangles
    supports the idea of a connection between internal camp treatment
    of the marginal groups and the sociostructural control they were
    subjected to in society at large. With regard to the homosexuals,
    there were many reports of how the SS deliberately treated them
    brutally and how the other prisoners looked [continued after
    tables]

    TABLE 20.2
    Survival Rate According to Category and Marital Status
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    Married Single, Divorced, Widowed
    (%) (%)

    Homosexuals 51.4 47.7
    (74) (451)
    Jehovah's 66.2 66.3
    Witnesses (361) (146)

    Politicals 65.4 52.4
    (81) (84)
    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Note Figures in parentheses are based on social groups of a
    prisoner category, insofar as its fate is known (dead, liberated,
    or released).

    TABLE 20. 3
    Survival Rate According to Category and Number of Children
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    With Childless
    Children
    (%) (%)
    Homosexuals 56.6 49.2
    (69) (366)
    Jehovah's Witnesses 62.9 59.8
    (240) (179)
    Politicals 60.3 56.9
    (78) (72)
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Note Figures in parentheses are based on social groups of a
    prisoner category, insofar as its fate is known (dead, liberated,
    or released).

    down upon them. This contrasts with reports stating that Jehovah's
    Witnesses were admired outside the camp or that politicals were
    full of respect for one another's activities. Analytical
    scientific literature also draws the connection between the
    prestige of a triangle and the treatment of the victim category
    concerned. Insofar as the pink triangle appears at all in the
    historical literature, the tendency is in the direction of
    antihomosexual prejudice. There is a tendency of the literature to
    associate the pink triangle with the criminal green. The few
    surviving pink-triangle wearers were treated similarly by state and
    society after 1945, when cautious attempts toward compensation were
    finally and definitely rejected. Interviews with such survivors
    revealed that for many years they never told anyone they had been
    in a concentration camp. The extreme devaluation was accepted as a
    self-evaluation. Gay interest groups arose again only in the
    1950s, and the movement as a whole took until the 19705 to return
    to the position it had held in 1932. Noticeably often, ex-wearers
    of the pink triangle report that they subsequently got
    married."(Berenbaum, 200-206)

    NOTES

    1. See my book Seminar: Gesellschaft und Homosexualitaet
    (Frankfurt am Main, i 1977), chap. 8, especially pp. 325-65. For
    some descriptive results, see my | article "The Pink Triangle: The
    Homosexual Males in Concentration Camps in Nazi Germany," Journal
    of Homosexuality 6 ( 1981):141-60. This is reprinted in Salvatore
    J. Licata and Robert P. Peterson, ed ., Historical Perspectives
    on a Homosexuality (New York, 1981).

    Work Cited

    Berenbaum, Michael, Ed. A Mosaic of Victims: Non-Jews Persecuted
    and Murdered by the Nazis. New York: New York University Press,
    1990


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    Wow, what just looking around will find.

    waiting

    Edited by - waiting on 19 August 2000 20:22:17

  • waiting
    waiting

    Hey y'all,

    I hadn't actually gone back to The Nizkor Project page to look any further until now.

    There is another url given which is an indepth look at the Holocaust:

    [url= http://www.mtsu.edu/~baustin/holo.html]Holocaust Page[/url]

  • Zep
    Zep

    Waiting, i'm gunna wreck your thread here by going off topic.But I want to ask, since your've done a lot of reading (all those books i mentioned & then some down below)....and yet you call yourself a 'fence sitter'...So i'm taking that to mean that you still attend meetings.HOW, how do you do it...i suppose the social side of things would be different, but how do you sit there for 2hrs and listen to the stuff and read the magazines etc.You must be sitting there going "oh well, thats wrong, thats BS, wrong" over and over in your head every time the guy up the front opens his mouth.
    I remember when i went to a few meetings...and what turned me off and put me to sleep was when the Guy up the front asked this Question moreorless: "how much blood is there going to be at Armageddon" and a young 16-17 yearold girl/woman answered and said "Up to the bridels"....i just thought, thats it, this is weird!.

  • waiting
    waiting

    Hey Zep,

    Actually, my husband and I decided to stop attending all meetings about 3 mos. ago. But the year before that, it had been just Sundays. Normally, my cute husband sleeps during the talks. As long as he didn't snore - I didn't bother poking him in the ribs.

    I found that if I took 3/4 mags. with me, then if (and usually) there was a boring talk, I would just read. Really stayed up on my reading that way. And during the WT study, I answered a lot - but usually I was the dork who tried very politely to correct the "wideness" of some of the answers.

    Like: The Society would say "most probably the end will come before the year 1975." Someone, invariably, will answer: "The end will come in 1975."

    It made it doubly hard when it was a brother, because sisters are not allowed to correct a brother - no matter how stupid and irrelevant his comment may be. But where's there's a will there's a way - and I could usually find it.

    The elders didn't care for me much - I was quite outspoken - but they couldn't counsel me because I did it carefully. The sisters liked me, however. I was "willful."

    All of the above, and Prozac.

    waiting

    Edited by - waiting on 20 August 2000 0:25:45

  • somebody
    somebody

    waiting, you are the greatest! :-) I understand your points with your great humor with it.

    keep it up,
    somebody

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