John the Baptist cave found? Does the WTS agree it is?

by catchthis 4 Replies latest social current

  • catchthis
    catchthis

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041205/sc_afp/israel_antiquities_religion_041205191050

    I wonder if the WTS will side with the doubting critics solely for what is said here:

    Several crosses and a rough drawing of a severed head were also carved into the walls, illustrating John's death by beheading at the hands of Herod Antipas, ruler of the northern Galilee region at the time.

    On one hand, they would love to say with certainty that archeologists have found conclusive evidence, outside the biblical account, that JtB exisited. But in a catch-22, they would have to come up with some sort of excuse as to why crosses were carved into the stone walls.

    Maybe a QFR is in order here?

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    This story circulated over the summer as well.

    I have to remain a skeptic on this one. The problem is that there are two distinct findings here, and it is not at all clear whether one has to do with the other. The carvings are very late, from the Byzantine period, and only show that circa AD 600-900 the site was venerated as a place associated with John the Baptist. It cannot thus be used as evidence proving the existence of John the Baptist, only that people several hundreds of the years later thought it was where John had lived. The other finding relates to the jug shards which may have been used in mikvah ritual washing and which may date to the time of John the Baptist (if not before his time). But I find it highly tenuous to say that these jugs are relics of John the Baptist (who is represented in the gospels instead as immersing his followers in the Jordan rather than by pouring water with jugs in a cave, tho ritual washing could have also been another of his practices) on the basis of a very late tradition. Since ritual washing was widely practiced by Essenes and Pharisees throughout Judah and Galilee, it should not be surprising that such jugs should be found near a source of water. And it is not clear, anyway, what these jugs were used for....

  • RunningMan
    RunningMan

    Yes, but you seem to be forgetting the inscription on the cave wall that said, "Johnny B was here - 10/10/26". That pretty much sews up the authenticity.

  • confusedjw
    confusedjw

    Not unless it was predicted to be found by the WT

  • heathen
    heathen

    One thing for sure is that link doesn't work . I agree with leolaia on this one . There is no conclusive evidence , I even remember a show where acheologists had found a burial site that had a beheaded skeleton in it and believed it possible that they found John the baptist remains . There was nothing conclusive on that either . I notice that alot of religionists are always claiming they found something that can't be proven either way . I suppose next they will find some of the stones actually used to stone stephen and venerate that as well . It's really quite absurd .

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