Jehovah’s Witnesses VS. Basic Christianity

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    Jehovah’s Witnesses VS. Basic Christianity


    By his spirit, the holy spirit, Jehovah God guides or leads his people up to a certain point of time, and thus he did until the time when ‘the comforter’ was taken away, which would necessarily occur when Jesus, the Head of his organization, came to the temple and gathered unto himself those whom he found faithful when he, as the great Judge, began his judgment, in 1918.”

    Preservation (1932) - Rutherford - pp 193-194

    President J.F. Rutherford is telling us the holy spirit was taken away in 1918 and an organization remained in the place of holy spirit.

    “Shortly after he was installed as King, Jesus put in place a clearly recognizable channel through which he has helped his followers to be spiritually clean. That channel is the faithful and discreet slave, which Christ appointed in 1919.”

    God's Kingdom Rules! p101 par7

    Chapter 10 - The King Refines His People Spiritually

    Instead of God’s Holy Spirit, Jehovah’s Witnesses place their own organization as a substitute.

    Who, then, guided Jehovah’s Organization now that Holy Spirit had ceased?

    “After the holy spirit as an advocate or paraclete ceased to function in behalf of the consecrated, then the angels are employed in behalf of those who are being made ready for the kingdom.”

    Preservation (1932) - Rutherford - p 51

    The answer is: angels were employed. (Note:)

    Galatians 1:8

    “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”

    Truly all lovers of truth and righteousness long for the approaching unhindered rule of the kingdom of God and keep praying for it even as Jesus taught us to pray.—Matt. 6:10; Rev. 20:6; 21:4. Because of this hope, the “faithful and discreet slave” has alerted all of God’s people to the sign of the times indicating the nearness of God’s Kingdom rule. In this regard, however, it must be observed that this “faithful and discreet slave” was never inspired…

    Watchtower - March 1, 1979, p23 par15

    To Whom Shall We Go but Jesus Christ?


    Putting all that together, we are told:

    Jehovah’s people were led by holy spirit until it ceased. Then angels took over. At no time was Jehovah’s organization led by holy spirit after 1918.

    Let us ask why anybody would believe this “not led by holy spirit” group who is convinced it is the only channel of communication with God Almighty?

    “A number of factors—including past religious beliefs or even mental or emotional imbalance—might cause some to assume mistakenly that they have the heavenly calling.”

    Watchtower - August 15, 2011 p22

    Over the decades, the Watchtower leaders have insisted they alone are channeling Truth. Doesn’t their firm conviction, their service, their commitment to spreading the warning of End Times count for anything?

    “Do you feel that you have more than average zeal in the ministry? Are you a keen student of God's Word who loves to delve into "the deep things of God"? (1 Cor. 2:10). Have you seen Jehovah's special blessing on your ministry? Do you have a burning desire to do Jehovah's will? Do you have a deep inner feeling of responsibility to help others spiritually? Have you seen proof that Jehovah has personally intervened in your life? If you answer these questions with a resounding yes, does this mean that you now have the heavenly calling? No, it does not.

    Watchtower - January, 2016, p21 p15

    The Spirit Bears Witness With Our Spirit

    Jesus Christ gave his true followers the Great Commission, to spread the message of salvation to all who exercised faith in his sacrifice.

    Question: If Jehovah’s Witnesses did NOT have holy spirit to lead them, would their message turn away from Jesus Great Commission about salvation?

    “In time, flashes of light revealed that Jehovah’s chief purpose was, not the salvation of creatures, but the vindication of his sovereignty. The most important theme of the Bible was seen to be, not the ransom, but the Kingdom, for it will vindicate Jehovah’s sovereignty. What a flash of light that was!”

    Watchtower - May 15, 1995, p20 par17

    Part 1—Flashes of Light—Great and Small

    Here we have it spelled out for us. By changing the name of the religion from CHRISTianity to Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Great Commission was road blocked. The message of JW’s was all about the brand name advertised by J.F. Rutherford. This was a “flash” of so-called New Light.

    Question: What about Bible readers who object that the purpose of Christianity and the Great Commission is to inform the nations about Jesus’ love for them and rescuing them from death?

    “No question about it. We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the “faithful and discreet slave” organization.”

    Watchtower - February 15, 1981, p19

    Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible?

    “[I don't care what you want to say.] All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the “greatly diversified wisdom of God” can become known only through Jehovah’s channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave.—John 6:68.”

    Watchtower - October 1, 1994, p8

    The Bible—A Book Meant to Be Understood

    Is this not why Jehovah’s Witnesses are SO DIFFERENT from mainstream Christian churches?

    What JW’s sneeringly call “Christendom” teach:

    “And as for you, the anointing that you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to be teaching you; but the anointing from him is teaching you about all things and is true and is no lie. …”

    1 John 2:27 (NWT)

    Maybe this is why JW’s don’t rely on the Holy Spirit.

    The name of JESUS was the most important name when the Spirit of God miraculously arrived.

    “But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.”

    John 14:26

    Jesus ceased to be worshipped by Jehovah’s Witnesses by 1954.

    "Should we worship Jesus?

    Consequently, since the Scriptures teach that Jesus Christ is not a trinitarian co-person with God the Father, but is a distinct person, the Son of God, the answer to the above question must be that no distinct worship is to be rendered to Jesus Christ now glorified in heaven.

    Watchtower 1954 Jan 1 p.31


    What have we learned?

    The organization called Jehovah’s organization by Jehovah’s Witnesses

    Is a self-appointed replacement for Holy Spirit, led by angels, which is more concerned with it’s own brand name and self-importance than the salvation of mankind by Jesus Christ, who is not considered worthy of worship.

  • Finkelstein

    The honest truthful conclusion is that men alone make up their own self identifying adoration of being spiritually guided.

    Its a power thing.

    ie.... the men who've been running the Watchtower Publishing house.

  • TerryWalstrom

    Can you imagine thinking you had the power to decide when Holy Spirit ceases?

    It's a glimpse into Rutherford's megalomania.

    What an arbitrary date 1918 really is!

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  • opusdei1972

    This stuff about the holy spirit being ceased to function in 1918, was even published as an study article in The Watchtower, September 1, 1930. Currently, many of the Witnesses ignore it, but they should know about it, because the Governing Body still teaches that Jesus appointed in 1919 his faithful and discreet slave, and of course, the leader of this gang of lunatics was Joseph Rutherford, who propagated this new doctrine of the holy spirit.

  • opusdei1972

    I would like to add the words of Rutherford on 1918:

    The evidence shows that a great separating work has been going on since 1918...... The evidence is conclusive that the Lord is now in his temple and that there is a unity of faith and knowledge among those who are in the temple. There is now a clearer vision of God's purposes revealed to the temple class. ….....But it seems certain that when Jesus came to his temple and began his work of judgment he would direct his holy angels to take the necessary action to cause the separation of the disapproved from the approved ones, and would use his angels to bear messages to them to direct the approved ones as to what to do. (The Watchtower September 1st 1930 Issue, Page 262,263)

    Ohh, if angels directed Rutherford and friends to preach the 1925 prophecy, these angels clearly misled them.
  • Finkelstein

    " The evidence shows that a great separating work has been going on since 1918."

    Yes a separation of the opportunistic bullshitters and the delusional idealistic nutters.

  • TerryWalstrom

    The Society used to get away with claiming Jesus chose Rutherford's not-yet-JW version of Pastor Russell's struggling splinter group of Bible Students--but they can't actually give specific reasons for His doing so any longer, thanks to the availability of documents on the Internet.

    What exactly was going on was a schism! That's not an organization.

  • JRK

    It is like the difference between oranguatan poop or monkey poop. They both stink and I am not interested in ingesting either.


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