No Blood Policy and some repercussions

by Listener 7 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Listener
    Listener

    Thank you Atlantis for the emails that you send out to so many of us. In one email that I received dated 21st October was a JW document Title "Information for Patients requiring Chemotherapy or Surgery"

    The organization never ceases to shock and I was disgusted with the information included in this document because it leads to their followers not getting the best medical care, not just because of their no blood policy but because of the other repercussions which they highlight in this information guide.

    They begin by stating they are not giving medical advice, just information to help individuals make their own decisions.

    Point 7 states

    7. Oncologist: He is a cancer specialist. He may recommend chemotherapy, radiation, or other therapies to treat the cancer. Some treatments will impair the body’s ability to produce new blood cells.
    (1) Ask how he can individualize or modify your chemotherapy protocol by extending the cycles or reducing the dosage if needed.
    (2) Ask about the use of drugs that stimulate production of red blood cells, white blood cells, and platelets.

    They are telling followers to reduce the amount of chemo simply based on the idea that there is a possibility of needing a blood transplant.

    Point 8 states

    8. Hematologist: He is a blood disorder specialist. For a very limited number of patients with certain conditions, he may recommend a hematopoietic (blood-forming) stem cell trans?plant (also called a bone marrow transplant). Such stem cells can be collected from your own blood or the blood of another person. Since these can be complex medical matters, the Hospital Liaison Committee (HLC) can assist you to understand the issues and to communi?cate with caregivers. However, the HLC will not make a decision for you regarding a stem cell transplant. Because the transplant will also unintentionally include other blood cells, you will have to decide, in harmony with your Bible-trained conscience, whether you can accept it.

    (1) Ask your caregiver how the stem cells will be stored before they are reinfused.

    (2) If the stem cells are from another person, ask your caregiver how he will manage your condition without using infusions of donor lymphocytes (a type of white blood cells).

    (3) Some hospitals routinely administer blood transfusions in the course of recovery. Ask your caregiver to explain how he plans to avoid this

    They advice that a stem cell transplant will unintentionally include other blood cells and it is up to the individual as to whether they accept it or not. Given that they state any blood transfusion is also up to the individual to accept or not, it's hard to conclude that it is okay to do this. However, they suggest that they can but need to clarify a couple of matters first.

    The only basis they give for it being acceptable seems to be because blood cells are 'unintentionally' included with the stem cells. This is just a word game here as they are obviously 'intentionally' included if they are there. What they are suggesting is that the individual isn't 'intentionally' having blood, instead their main aim is to have the stem cell transplant and since it's just a 'byproduct' it's okay.

  • NotFormer
    NotFormer

    Whatever spin they are putting out there, they are practicing medicine!

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    " stating they are not giving medical advice, just information to help individuals make their own decisions. "

    That Rider has been added so they cannot be sued and have to pay compensation, when their murderous, unscriptural advice is followed,

  • Atlantis
    Atlantis

    Listener:

    Always welcome! Great post!

    Grandpa!

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    They aren't practicing medicine. That is quackery.

    Their interpretation of a couple of Biblical passages has led to suffering and death. My mother almost died a year ago, when she had internal bleeding and the doctors at the hospital could not locate the source. Since she was unwilling to get a transfusion, she came very very close to bleeding to death. They managed to use other means to slow the blood loss and the bleeding stopped and she was able to recover. But she was probably a few hours from death. After all these years, I don't think she would accept blood even if the WTS said it was okay.

    They don't need to practice medicine. The medical profession is doing just fine without their help.

  • NotFormer
    NotFormer

    I mean that they are falsely practicing medicine. They're giving medical advice, no matter how much they try to deny it. One man's "advice" is another man's commandments.

    TonusOH, the commandments they gave your mother constitute medical directives; they were acting as though they were qualified medical professionals, even though you quite rightly identify them as quacks. If only the various medical boards could go after them for illegally practicing medicine 💊💉!

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    Sorry NotFormer, I did not mean to imply that you were saying that without sarcasm.

  • NotFormer
    NotFormer

    Yeah, it's hard to capture "tone of voice" when merely posting text. 🙊

    It sucks that there is a "drag factor" that comes with their prohibitions. As you suggest in your mother's case, even if they repealed the blood doctrine tomorrow, many would continue to follow today's prohibition, because to them, it was always Jehovah's will. It was such for all their life, and a change in policy wouldn't change their lifetime of perception that receiving a blood transfusion would be wrong in Jehovah's eyes.

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