It seems that many witnesses simply dont care about facts?

by stuckinarut2 43 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Rainbow_Troll
    Rainbow_Troll

    Unless a JW can perspnally verify a given fact, it all comes down to a choice of who to believe: Jehovah or Satan?

  • dogon
    dogon

    Remember the old books like then is finished? They would go into depth on what they believed. Bull shit? sure but it was in depth bull shit. Now they drink pablum and ask for more patting themselves on the back as if it was the new unification theory.

  • S K Ditta
    S K Ditta

    A question: If "facts" as basic as time, space, gravity, historical events, and international relations are open to question...what absolute facts does anyone have that can forever be unchallenged? For JWs or otherwise, it is merely an excuse for a temporary certainty. This, I opine.

  • Half banana
    Half banana

    The JW cult like all religions, depend only on collective beliefs.

    Beliefs can happily flourish without any facts at all.

    The 'truth' of a matter in a religion is validated, not by concrete evidence but instead by the number of people in a particular community who have been convinced to believe it.

    So 'belief' is something to be shared in your culture group for the feel good factor and for forming a sense of group solidarity... and facts are for people who care about accurate perception like scientists and academics and many ex-JWs.

  • S K Ditta
    S K Ditta
    Beliefs can happily flourish without any facts at all.

    Yes, they do because people are bound also by objectives, not just beliefs.

    Like "alternative facts"...outside the JW world.

  • blondie
    blondie

    But they do love rumors, tall tales, experiences that cannot be verified.

    SMURF seen running at a convention....they're demonized.

    Image result for smurf running

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    J.W's do not care about TRUTH, which is irony of the first order, with all the times they call their ( ever changing) belief system "the truth".

    We can of course debate about the nature of truth and facts, but JW's are similar to " flat-Earthers" who also deny that the Earth goes around the Sun.

    This is because their minds are controlled, controlled by people who have convinced them they are trustworthy.

    Sad Sad Sad.

  • pale.emperor
    pale.emperor

    It's scary how much it's changed. Independent study was the sign of a zealot when i was a kid. Now they've actually a sin as "causing divisions".


  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    JWs are under heavy mind control. Anything that contradicts or puts their rock star popes in bad light cannot be trusted.

    Facts are from the devil, to a JW.

  • cobweb
    cobweb

    Ignoring facts is the only way they can continue to believe the Lie.

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