Has Philippians 4 versus 6 and 7 actually helped anyone?!

by Isambard Crater 2 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Isambard Crater
    Isambard Crater

    If I received a dollar for every time an elder had told me to read and meditate on this scripture over the years, I would be really wealthy. Maybe when I was a kid, scriptures like this made me feel a little bit better, but once I had learned TTATT and also lost my faith in God, or at least the Borganization's version of God, scriptures like Phil 4 versus 6+7 do nothing for me, but they are always, always quoted in Public Talks about Depression, or during Shepherding Visits.

  • NikL

    I think if you have Jesus Christ in your life it might.

    The JWs spend all their time going on and on about Jehovah and the Organization.

    They overlook the scriptures that talk about Jesus being Lord.

    I know that I personally feel much better knowing the REAL truth about Jesus being my savior and mediator. Not some man made organization filled with rules.

    Please don''t let JWs take away the faith that God loves you and sent his son for you.

    I believe the truly evil thing about the Org is that they destroy faith in Jesus Christ. They deny HIS divinity. I think that is just what the enemy wants.

    Even if you don't truly believe, ask God to help you see the truth and read his word in the bible.

    Maybe you will find a different path like I did. Once I realized Jesus IS Lord, it changed everything.

    I am falling in love with him more every day.

    As for scriptures talking about Jesus and NOT Jehovah. Here is a list sent to me by another user on the site who goes by the name of Searcher. I found it truly brilliant and it got me going down the road to discovering the REAL good news...

    According to Revelation 3:14, God already has a "faithful & true witness" - he doesn't need any more!

    However, the scriptures instructed Christians who they were to witness for:

    Matthew 10:18 - ".....for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations.

    Mark 13:9 - "......before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness to them."

    Luke 24: 47,48 - "....and on the basis of his [Jesus'] name....You are to be witnesses....."

    John 1:15 - "John bore witness about him..." [JESUS]

    John 5:37 - "the Father who sent me has himself borne witness about me."

    John 8:18 - "the Father who sent me bears witness about me."

    John 15:26,27 - "the spirit will bear witness about me; and YOU in turn, are to bear witness."

    Acts 1:8 - "You [11 faithful apostles] will be witnesses of me...."

    Acts 4:17,18 - ...upon the basis of this (Jesus') name .... upon the basis of the name of Jesus.

    Acts 10:39 - "And we are witnesses of all the things he [Jesus] did..."

    Acts 10:43 - "To him [Jesus] all the prophets bear witness....."

    Acts 13:31 - "who are now his (Jesus') witnesses to the people.

    Acts 22:15 - "because you are to be a witness for him [Jesus] to all men......"

    Acts 22:20 - "......the blood of Stephen your [Jesus'] witness was being spilled..."

    Acts 23:11 - "..... a thorough witness on the things about me in Jerusalem..."

    Acts 26:16 -"I [Jesus]..choose you as an attendant and a witness respecting me"

    Romans 8:16 - "The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit..."

    1 Corinthians 1:6 - "even as the witness about the Christ..........."

    1 Timothy. 2:6 - "......what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times."

    2 Timothy 1:8 - "............of the witness about our Lord.. [Christ]"

    1 John 5:9 - "the witness God gives...the fact that he has borne witness concerning his Son."

    Revelation 1:9 - "....for speaking about God and bearing witness to Jesus."

    Revelation 12:17 - ".......and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus."

    Revelation 17:6 - "........and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus."

    Revelation 19:10 -".....the work of witnessing to Jesus.... bearing witness to Jesus."

    Revelation 20:4 - "............ for the witness they bore to Jesus."

    For whose name were Christians to witness? (see 29 scriptures above)

    For whose name would Christians be hated? (Matt. 10:22)

    By whose name were people healed? (Acts 3:6; Acts 4:10)

    By whose name were demons expelled? (Luke 10:17; Acts 16:18)

    By whose name would people receive Holy Spirit? (John 14:26)

    In whose name would people pray to God? (John 15:16)

    By whose name would people be named? (Isa. 62:2; Acts 11:26)

    By whose name would people be reconciled to God? (Rom. 5:10; 2 Cor. 5:18)

    By whose name would people be forgiven their sins? (Matt. 26:28; Acts 2:38; Eph. 1:7)

    In whose name would people be judged? (John 5:27)

    By whose name would people be resurrected (John 5:28)

    In whose name would people be baptized? (Acts 2:38, 8:16, 10:48, 19:5, 22:16)

    In whose name were people to put faith? (John 2:23)

    In whose name was Saul/Paul commissioned to preach? (Acts 9:14-16)

    For whose name would Christians be reproached? (1 Peter 4:14)

    In whose name were Christians to gather together? (Matt. 18:20)

    For whose name would Christians make sacrifices? (Matt. 19:29)

    For whose name would Christians be persecuted and killed? (Luke 21:12,16,17)

    In whose name will every knee in heaven and on earth bend? (Philippians 2:10)

    In whose name would people be declared righteous? (1 Cor. 6:11)

    By means of whose name would Christians offer a sacrifice of praise? (Hebrews 13:15)

    The names 'Jehovah' or 'God' are notable by their absence.
    Jesus also said "If you ask anything in my name, I WILL DO IT." John 14:14

  • MacHislopp

    Hello Nikl,

    Thanks for your excellent references. A great and truthfull tool,

    based only on God's word.


    J.C. Mac Hislopp

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