Trying To Leave - Im Going Crazy

by pale.emperor 69 Replies latest jw experiences

  • pale.emperor

    This is my first post. I really feel i need to leave the JW's rather than go along pretending everything is perfect etc. I was raised in this organization and for many years never doubted it for a second. A quick rundown of what's brought me here:

    My parents came into "the truth" in the 1970s. My mum came from a very poor family and my dad was a carpenter. They had 5 kids (including me) so money was tight. I had a happy childhood but my only friends were my JW family. The elders in my congregation coincidentally all had very good jobs. Their kids were all friends and they all did stuff together: parties, holidays, trips out - of course non of the non-elder kids were included in any of these. I didnt think much of it at the time, but when i was about 17/18 i did. The parties id go to were us JW teens would meet up were kind of exclusive. I managed to get around quite well simply because a lot of the boys wanted to date my sisters so they'd take me along. Anyway, in these parties there'd be the popular elders kids who of were a lot more worldly than i ever was, and more so than some of my worldly work colleagues. I told myself that im sure they'll come to their senses and i should keep trying hard to meet the standard of their popularity contest.

    My dad was serving as a Min Servant. He was a very humble and private man. When he got cancer he got sicker and sicker and asked to come off as a Min Servant. The following Thursday, an elder gets up onto the platform and announces: "This is to announce that Brother XXXX is no longer a ministerial servant". As he walks back to his seat there's murmuring and tutting from the gossipers and backbiters. My dad wasnt there that day, he was too busy taking his morphine on a drip in his bed. Years later i'd discover by an elders daughter that has now left, that many in the congregation thought he was taken off because he was an adulterer. Which is completely the opposite of what my father was. A man who gave 30 odd years of his life to that organization.

    Fast forward a few more years. At 21yo i enter a 3 year relationship with an elders daughter. The very first time i go to their home he sits me down with a bible and gives me a list of things we're not allowed to so (some of which were new to me and just gave me ideas!). Then he ask's if im a Ministerial Servant. I said no. He then asked why (?!?!). Turns out this elder is "one of the anointed" even though he's only 50yo and i thought they were all chosen in 1914. I didnt say anything. Later i found out that sometimes he doesn't think he is and other times he's sure he is, so every couple of memorials he doesn't partake of the bread and wine and other years he does.

    3 years later im no longer with this girl. THE VERY DAY we break up she's out on a date with a Min Servant. They're no married.

    Then i meet another girl, another elders daughter. This would prove to be the biggest mistake of my life. They seems like such a nice family. All their friends are elder families. "I thought to myself: This is it! I've reached the top!"

    We went on a holiday together, us, my wifes family and 2 other elders families. Sitting round the dinner table the elders start talking about brother so-and-so and what he's done, why sister so-and-so is now disfellowshipped and even talking trash about other members of the congregation. This is while their wives and children are sitting there. I'll never forget when my father in law said "yeah, the judicial with so-and-so went ahead. We could see he was repentant... but we disfellowshipped him anyway." <they all laugh>.

    So after we're married it turns out that daddy elder knows everything... and i mean EVERYTHING about our marriage. Anything i do he know about, no matter how trivial. If we miss a meeting we get a phonecall asking why we wernt there. If we miss a ministry day we get a phonecall asking why. My wife then begins to tell daddy elder what music is on my ipod. I get a visit from "concerned" elders. He also gets to know that i know a lot about other religions because i find it interesting. I get another visit from "concerned elders" asking why have i bothered reading The Book Of Mormon? The Koran? The Bagavad Gita? Buddhist writings? I reply with "well, they're quoted in our WT's sometimes, so somebody in bethel must have read them too in order to quote from them. And also, how can i preach to other faiths if im ignorant of their beliefs?". I was promptly removed from microphone privileges and sound desk.

    Anyway. After a few years of having to hind mundane things from my wife because her dad and the elders might know i start getting annoyed about it. I cant open up to her about anything i think of.

    Now comes the kicker... my wife comes home from a night-shift from work one day and goes straight to bed acting strange. Later in the day, im looking after some children for a friend and he calls me crying down the phone. She tells me she wasn't really at work she was in a hotel room with another man. An elder from another hall. An elder older than her father. It turns out, my wife had just found out she is pregnant. She confides in an elder at her workplace because she's worried about the future. This elder "kindly" advises they should keep in touch via txt but in private. Then later they end up in a hotel room "so they can talk in private". So she told me the whole story. The elder tried to keep her from telling me, warning her "if you tell your husband it will ruin your life".

    Anyway, i forgave her. She was disfellowshipped and because she had absolutely no friends outside "the truth" she went through an entire pregnancy 100% alone. No friends, me at work. I'd come home after work and she'd be sitting in the dark crying. She'd been there all day.

    So after all of this im thinking "my wife was sorry. she confessed the next day. i forgave her. she's pregnant and alone and scared." i couldnt understand why they were happy to leave her that way. We dont drive, so sometimes people would drive past her in the rain while she was 9 months pregnant stuggling to get to the hall - desperate to be reinstated.

    She's now reinstated. But nothing we do is ever good enough. We get random "shepherding visits" telling us we need to do more. We have a baby and so our ministry has dropped. We're constantly left out of any social gathering, group and conversation. I especially feel totally alone, despite us JW's believing ourselves to be one big family. Also, i cant see the point in completing ministry reports. I dont see a scriptural basis for it.

    So, just to be a rebel, I GREW A BEARD!!

    I haven't held a microphone, asked to stand on attendance or anything since. I was asked why i have a beard. Why dont i shave it off? What are you trying to prove? You are fashioning yourself after the world. I, very politely, agreed to shave it off if they show me a picture of Jesus or any apostle beardless.

    Sorry this was a long post, just a lot to get off my mind. Although im still going to meetings im totally isolated. And i don't have worldly friends either. I plan to slip away but i know daddy elder will report me if i tell my wife this.

  • Amelia Ashton
    Amelia Ashton

    Welcome to the forum.

    You have had a lot to deal with.

    You are doing totally the right thing not telling anyone what you are thinking. Take things slow and we will support you here.

    Amelia x

  • juandefiero

    Wow...what a story...

    If you want to leave, take it SLOW...

    Don't try to wake up your sounds like she's the type that will report you immediately.

    Just keep doing what you're doing...deflect any questioning...and ignore the elders... Don't give them power over you.

    Welcome to the forum.

  • DesirousOfChange

    It's time to play the "stumbled" card.

    "How can these unloving assh0les be appointed by Holy Spirit?"

    "Jesus said you would know his disciples by the LOVE among themselves. But there is no love. Only nepotism."

    Quit going. When your nosyass father in law questions you, quite simply tell him to get his fucking nose out of your life and your family's life. He is guilty of ignoring your headship of his daughter. When the elders visit you, tell them they need to fix things "at the top" then they can come back and see you.

    #1 Mission: Make worldly friends!!

    Good luck.


    The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!

  • Je.suis.oisif
    DOC said it better than I ever could. Welcome pale.emperor. Phew, what a journey. You seem a kind man. I had a lump in my throat when you told us about the night it was anounced your father was stepping down as a min. servant. Awful awful stupid ass judgemental erroneous attitude from vile congn members. Shame on them.
  • LostGeneration
    Is the kid yours or the other guys? I didn't quite get that part of it.
  • ToesUp

    Welcome. What a story! Sorry you had to go through all of that.

    You mentioned the Elders at the dinner table discussing everyones "private" information. There is nothing private in this organization. NOTHING! We have NEVER gone to the Elders for anything and never will. We don't trust many people anymore. DON'T TRUST THE DAMN ELDERS WITH ANYTHING!

    Take it slow and don't trust your wife. If she will screw you over once, she will screw you over a million times. She should be the one you can turn to. You are a better person than I am. I would have dropped her like a rock. Sorry...don't mean to hurt your feelings. Just my 2 cents.

  • LisaRose

    Welcome, I am sorry you have had to go through this. Most of us here have had similar experiences, a complete lack of love or concern by others in the congregation, especially the elders. Jesus said that the identifying mark of his disciples is that they have love among themselves. They brag about the preaching work but completely miss the one thing that would prove they follow Christ, love.

    It's clear that they are not true followers of Christ.

    Lisa 🌹

  • Finkelstein

    Sad story to say the least.

    If you haven't noticed and I think your starting to awaken to the fact that the JWS is a highly controlling intrusive religions cult, structured upon lies and corruption, full of pretentiousness and insincerity.

    Where everyone associated within it is playing a game of who is zealously righteous and who isn't, the constant examination of ones behavior being constantly evaluated and analyzed of what and how much they are doing to support the operation of this particular religious publishing house. ( The Watchtower Corporation )

    This has been intentionally developed over the years by the WTS leaders through their own indoctrination technics, some refer to as brainwashing.

    Shocking story about that asshole elder who took his position as an confiding elder to exploit your wife's frail emotional state to get some sexual satisfaction.

  • MarkofCane

    Welcome to the forum

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