A scientist did better than all religious founders and teachers

by venus 5 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • venus
    venus

    Thinking people have always sought a right reason for people to feel self-motivated to love each other (which is the goal of all religions). In the process each religious leader presented some reasons which were not adequate because division appeared once the founder left the stage.

    However, Carl Sagan (astronomer, astrophysicist, and science-fiction novelist ….etc) got it right when he wrote: “For small creatures, such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love” (Contact, Chapter 24 p. 430). When an interviewer said this was the best of his quotes and asked him to put it in simple words, Sagan said: “We exist in vastness of the universe, hence should have vast (great) mind of treating every one as residing/subsisting on the same (planet) home who breathe the same air (in contrast to going into smallness of contraction with each one seeking own interest). Where ever we look, we hear “be of vast/great mind, and there is no way we can escape this eternal command.”

  • scratchme1010
    scratchme1010

    ...people have always sought a right reason for people to feel self-motivated to love each other...

    That's the problem right there if you ask me. That seems based on the premise that people aren't capable or naturally interested in being kind to each other, which is not necessarily accurate.

    In any event, science can explain many things way better than religion, but I'm not sure that something like love can be scientifically explained, or how can it promote loving each other, other than by choice. Although many religions preach "love", but not to gay people, not to fornicators, not to rape victims, and for as long as they say it's the right thing to do, otherwise people deserve to die.

    There's no science or religion that can make that right in any way shape or form.

  • venus
    venus

    scratchme1010,

    You see the contrast here. Religious founders were seeking reason whereas for Carl Sagan it was too openly available--something that requires no search, no organization ...etc. In other words, what religion claimed as their exclusive zone where the science cannot reach is actually reached and correctly discerned by a scientist.

  • Spoletta
    Spoletta

    Carl Sagan has always seemed to me to be the embodiment of the whole concept of humanism.Virtue and empathy for its own sake, with no reward or punishment for motive.

  • tor1500
    tor1500

    Hi,

    Religion has forgot the heart of the matter....Love God and Love one another....that is the meat and potatoes of the Good News...the other stuff religion has added is too serve a different meal every week in their weekly sermon, so after a time...they took off the meat replaced it with a doctrine, replaced the meat replaced the potatoes with rules...viola, there you have it religion...

    The Good News is simple and to the point....it's a good thing that scientist discover things...what else have we humans to do but discover and research....so interesting what they find...maybe it was a big bang or maybe it was God...

    No matter how we got here...we have to watch out for each other...doesn't matter who motivated that thought religion or science...imagine if we were to soften our hearts and work together in this world...I'm not living in fairy land, but just think....the world is a mess, and we are all in this together...especially those in the USA, we got Trump, that's a scary thought...so we need to come together and see what this cat is doing...because he is rich and powerful...the scariest thing is to have a politician that can buy and sell the world...and he is in charge...

    In the USA we got bigger fish to fry...so as far as religion at this point...folks are just trying to brace themselves and see what Trump will do...so are folks worrying about witnesses...NOT....or science...NOT....

    Trump is in charge....and he thinks he's in charge of the world...(Pinky and the Brain)....Trump may ban all religion..who can tell..

    Tor

  • venus
    venus

    tor1500,

    You summed up matter very nicely:

    "Religion has forgot the heart of the matter....Love God and Love one another." Ironically, they are all travelling in the opposite direction--they teach (by their action) us how to remain divided.

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