SILLY OBSESSION: Jehovah's Witnesses' Conspiracy Theory about the Return of Christ

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  • TerryWalstrom


    Some groups of people in the world believe Flying Saucers and space Aliens are secretly visiting our planet intervening in man’s affairs. Jehovah’s Witnesses believe something very similar! Except, the space alien is JESUS!

    Throughout the history of Christianity, there has never been any confusion about what the phrase

    "The Return of Christ" actually means. But, the doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses seek to destroy and replace the obvious meaning with an unnecessarily complicated teaching.


    Watchtower’s Corporation has always been run by persons who are into a Conspiracy Theory.
    They have been obsessed with setting dates and stubbornly defending those false dates.
    A conspiracy theory is an explanation of an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy without any warrant, involving a harmful act carried out by some kind of government or other powerful actors.

    For Jehovah’s Witnesses, a government has been set up in Heaven / Earth, invisible but detected by a special elite group (Governing Body) to warn of the powerful coming destruction of the ruler Jesus Christ, hellbent on vengeance!


    The religious Doctrines of Watchtower are nothing more than dishonest efforts to prove they are right and everybody else is wrong, wrong, wrong!
    Yes, while some crazy folks search for Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster, Jehovah’s Witnesses are the crazies who believe in an invisible Jesus who is about to murder every man, woman, and child on earth.

    Wipe out eight billion people for what?

    For NOT BELIEVING the Watchtower’s doctrines!


    _____________WARPING IDEAS through misuse of WORDS

    If somebody in your home told you they were going away to Disneyland in Europe, but they were going to return later and take you with them next time, would you easily understand?

    LEAVING: departing from your house

    RETURNING: coming back to your house

    Simple enough? Yes!
    To LEAVE is to depart from a location by going elsewhere.

    To RETURN is to come back to a location after having departed.

    Simple enough? Yes!

    Not for the Watchtower's geniuses--no way.


    Now let's go through this exercise using a WATCHTOWER STYLE DEFINITION, shall we?


    From Watchtower reference book, REASONING FROM THE SCRIPTURES, page 340 under the heading: RETURN of CHRIST



    "Before leaving the Earth, Jesus Christ promised to return."

    Sounds promising and simple. Do they leave it at that?

    Will this Watchtower reference book DEFLECT, CONFUSE, and REDEFINE the simple meaning of RETURN to fit pre-existing Watchtower Doctrine?
    Let’s examine the text...


    Definition: "Before leaving the earth, Jesus Christ promised to return. (So far so good!) Thrilling events in connection with God’s Kingdom are associated with

    That promise. (Okay) It should be noted that there is a difference between

    coming and presence. (Hold on--not so fast!) Thus, while a person’s coming (associated with his arrival or return) occurs at a given time, his presence may thereafter extend over a period of years . . . " (Oops--we just rolled off the runway into the weeds!)

    __________STOP the madness!______________

    Notice above: Immediately a deflection has been introduced unnecessarily.

    Watchtower publications sabotage the defining process by interrupting it and diverting attention to DOGMA instead. If you leave home for Disneyland and return to your home from Disneyland, does it matter how long your vacation lasts? Or is that a completely different subject?

    __________CONTINUING from above:___________________

    ". . . In the Bible the Greek word er’kho-mai (“to come”) is also

    used with reference to Jesus’ directing his attention to an important

    Task at a specific time during his presence, namely, to his work as

    Jehovah’s executioner at the war of the great day of God the Almighty.”


    Did you notice?

    A side argument is wedged inside our definition of RETURN now complicated by the introduction of a Greek term which itself has other meanings.



    Remember, Jesus departed and promised to RETURN. When Jesus departed he was ON THE EARTH. Will the Watchtower publication tell us WHERE it is Jesus RETURNS to at his second coming? Throughout the history of Christianity, there has never been any confusion about the phrase "The Return of Christ" as far as what it actually means. No. What has confused people is the surrounding dogma concerning WHEN it occurs.

    Doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses seek to destroy and replace the obvious meaning with an unnecessarily complicated teaching about WHEN. They are very “date” oriented!

    Watchtower is obsessed with setting False Dates for the Return of Christ

    1. 1799, 1874 and later 1914, followed by a kind of second / second coming later at Armageddon.

    2. To cover up the failure of prediction, a silly"invisible presence" argument was tacked on to save the day. Jesus “arrived” unseen, they say. Therefore our false date for his coming was a REAL date.

    3. Once the Watchtower invented a Returned Christ--they had to explain why the End of the World didn’t happen!

    4. The preaching work and door to door ministry was invented to fill up the deafening silence and inactivity of a returned King Jesus, patiently tapping His foot while that work is carried out ineptly by a group of conspirators with a silly theory!


    The entire doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses rests on one tiny point. It is an extravagant effort, like any conspiracy theory or weird belief. The JW’s must explain why NOTHING happens at a time when EVERYTHING is supposed to come to an end.

    Christians have expected “every eye shall see Him” when he comes back. Watchtower has to convince these same people “every eye shall NOT see Him.”

    Wow! How will they pull that one off? Will it be by counterfeiting the words? Yes!

    The Greek word "parousia" can mean either COMING or ARRIVAL, or PRESENCE depending on the CONTEXT.

    Jehovah's Witnesses ignore context and insist on PRESENCE to foist the "invisible" rescue argument into it.


    They have to prove their conspiracy theory: If Jesus did NOT return when they PREDICTED IT--they are obviously FALSE PROPHETS.

    So, basically, they are saying, “Yes we are right, you are just too blind and stubborn to ‘see.’”


    Let us ask an important question here.

    IN THE DAYS OF NOAH the flood was coming.

    When the flood finally arrived (parousia) . . . WAS IT INVISIBLE WATER?


    With that understanding in mind, read this:


    MATTHEW 24:39

    “And they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood

    Came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming

    Of the Son of Man.”


    The Watchtower religion is built entirely on an ERROR in predicting the 2nd COMING.

    The doctrines are silly, contradictory, and illogical because they must bend everything to make that work.


    Watchtower is obsessed with false chronology and the Bible.
    Watchtower can’t escape that obsession.

    To obsess is: preoccupy or fill the mind of (someone) continually, intrusively, and to a troubling extent.

    Think of the burden JW's must carry around lugging the heavy anchor of 607 B.C.E when it is easily refuted as a confirmed date in history with events which did not occur when they insist these events actually did occur!

    607 "proves" 1914 or it refutes 1914.
    The Watchtower has to insist, no matter what, this date is true.

    In the Bible, the SIGN of something comes BEFORE the event itself. That is common sense.
    When you drive on the freeway, is the MAIN STREET EXIT sign before the exit or after?

    Watchtower wrecks common sense by introducing reverse-definition in REASONING FROM THE SCRIPTURES. (See the book above?)

    Watchtower tells us that invisible Jesus returns AND THEN the sign of His return shows up!

    WHY does the Watchtower put the SIGN of Jesus' return AFTER he arrives?

    Because they have to cover up the fact JESUS DID NOT return in 1914.


    Dishonesty, corruption, false teaching, poor reasoning, and outright lying is at the bottom

    of all DEFINITIONS given by this religion. This is what we mean by WATCHTOWER STYLE.

    Following Christ’s return, some persons show faith; they recognize the

    Sign of his presence. Others reject the evidence, but when Christ goes

    into action as God’s executioner of the wicked, even they will discern

    From the manifestation of his power that the destruction is not from men

    but from heaven. They will know what is happening because they were

    Warned in advance. Because of what is overtaking them, they will ‘beat

    themselves in grief.’”


    So this must be seen as hilarious! Everybody is looking for the MAIN STREET EXIT before the exit itself while Jehovah’s Witnesses insist we already got off on Main Street and the exit sign is in front of us “invisibly.”

    Aren’t they telling us, “You stupid and stubborn people who don’t believe what we say are gonna be very sorry when Jesus kills you for not accepting our conspiracy theory.”

    Yes. That’s the game Jehovah’s Witnesses play.

    They try and scare everybody into believing in their silly obsession with false date setting!


    The next time Jehovah’s Witnesses come to your door, ask them why Jesus Returned and did NOT do any of the things JW’s said he would do--and continues to NOT do--for 102 years.

    The JW’s will say, “He’s being merciful so you don’t have to die, we are warning you.”

    So you reply, “When Jesus Returned, did he actually ‘return’ to Earth?”
    The JW will reply, “He turned his attention to the Earth--but--He won’t actually come back until He kills your sorry ass at Armageddon.”

    You will say, “Have you ever seen a psychiatrist, you goofy, self-absorbed lunatic?Stop wasting your time and mine with this silly obsession. Elvis is dead. Bigfoot was a man in a gorilla suit and your Governing Body think their farts don’t stink. Well, guess what? I can smell them on YOUR BREATH!”


  • TheWonderofYou

    Somewhere in the midst I began to thrift away and think of other things, sorry the dogma is simply fiction. But If we not preached that stuff about jehovah and armageddon we would have EVEN loaded stark blood GUILT on us for the billions of innihilated unbelievers. The referring bible passage we learned in the baptism course but it doesnt come into my mind fast. It was a warning werk.

    But ironically the message of destruction is blurred and distorted for the publicity. It is presented as the good message. JW fear talking about the real message.

    Another concering fact is that the passage "Come Lord Jesus" (Rev. 22,20) has been interpreted too by some as "coming" of Jesus into "ones heart", "coming" on an individual basis, encounter with god, what would then make of "presence", "dawn" "advent" "parousia", "coming" interchangeable terms in ones individual encounter with god and not in the history as the second coming. This is similar to the endless presence of Jesus with JW.

    Also the again and again celebrated advent seasons are dawning now again, and each year again and again we have advent, jesus comes also somehow "invisible?" in our hearts, but does he really arrive ultimatetly each year. Are christians not constantly playing with the "coming" and parousia thought? Is that not also similiar to the shifting of coming time to the endless future? Why cant we wait for the second coming?

    This is a not so farfetched thought: Perhaps already the community with christ by partaking bread and wine at the Lords Body Supper, is the ADVENT of ETERNITY that counts, the real parousia the presence of God in ones life?

    This would the "presence", Parousia of Jesus Christ make being not so far away of us somewhere in the clouds -no ... he would be near instead very close to us - in our midst - in our heart (heart is in jewish faith the human core) - and the partaking at the Lords Supper would be the real timeless "coming" and "encounter" he presumably meant ? (Who knows)

    The word “Advent” is derived from the Latin word adventus, meaning “coming,” which is a translation of the Greek word parousia.

    Scholars believe that during the 4th and 5th centuries in Spain and Gaul, Advent was a season of preparation for the baptism of new Christians at the January feast of Epiphany, the celebration of God’s incarnation represented by the visit of the Magi to the baby Jesus (Matthew 2:1), his baptism in the Jordan River by John the Baptist (John 1:29), and his first miracle at Cana (John 2:1). During this season of preparation, Christians would spend 40 days in penance, prayer, and fasting to prepare for this celebration; originally, there was little connection between Advent and Christmas.
    By the 6th century, however, Roman Christians had tied Advent to the coming of Christ. But the “coming” they had in mind was not Christ’s first coming in the manger in Bethlehem, but his second coming in the clouds as the judge of the world. It was not until the Middle Ages that the Advent season was explicitly linked to Christ’s first coming at Christmas.

  • TheWonderofYou

    ...perhaps the "coming" means really a "timeless" and "placeless" second coming of Christ, the idea begins to enjoy me much more than "invisible presence". But then again it would not be visible with the eyes but only noticeable in ones heart....oh thats the same what happens with the prayer, the voice of god you cant hear with the ears, only with the heart...aha the word "coming", "visible for everbody on clouds " is only an ......illustration too for what happens when one or all people lately will encounter god, when those people realize ultimately what they are doing and what consequences it has brought for the eternity, its like the feeling of a burning fire, of a burning bush that opens the eyes, when you realize that a "god" exists, that truth exists, that responsibilty exists and that what you do has a meaning for others and has consequences also for your future and the future of the world, you fall on your knees and repent and pray and thank god for his coming into your life that your life has a meaning now.

    This kind of becoming aware and expansion of consciousness is then like the biblical "lightning visible from east to west that enlightens the night".

    So if they tell you, ‘There He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gathe

    He spoke of a universal awareness about truth not about annihilation. He will not come back at a place "here" or "there"!

  • Finkelstein

    The religious Doctrines of Watchtower are nothing more than dishonest efforts to prove they are right and everybody else is wrong, wrong, wrong!

    Well said Terry

    Of course everything the WTS leaders say is supporting and self empowering toward themselves, not to mention alluring to the literature this organization publishes.

    They have been selectively chosen as Jehovah's earthly arrangement.

    They are the only ones with true and accurate bible interpretation, never going beyond what is written.

    All other Christian based faiths are false, controlled and influenced by Satan !

    Ironically the WTS has been teaching and making false proclamations since its inception as a relgoius publishing house.

    Did God chose corrupt maligning false prophets, commercialized ones at that ?

  • prologos
    TWoY: "--advent --preparation, Christians would spend 40 days in penance, prayer, and fasting to prepare for this celebration; originally, there was little connection between Advent and Christmas.
    By the 6th century, however, Roman Christians had tied Advent to the coming of Christ. But the “coming” they had in mind was not Christ’s first coming in the manger

    That why the advent of Armageddon, Christ coming again, the 4st time has such an emotional hold on believers. We used to have 4 candles lit in succession to mark the nearness of the judgement, by Santa, aka Christ. Candles on a wreath, a circular counting you did not know whether you were coming or going, dates mattered.

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  • stillin

    There is an out-there spiritualist group called Mark-Age that, when stripped down to bare essentials, has a striking resemblance to the JW beliefs.I was in their mix back in the early to mid '70s and it was part of the reason why JW's made sense to me. They are unorthodox, non-conformist and dead sure that they are absolut lay right about everything!

    Google them. It's interesting.

  • Vidiot

    "If we can just look a little harder (and hope a little more fervently), we'll crack the code!"

  • TerryWalstrom

    Jehovah's Witnesses confuse the horizon line with an actual destination.

    Approach the horizon by moving forward? Hardly. It's always there, depending on your visibility, about 10 miles distant :)

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