Is this the best you have to offer. Trump / Clinton?

by Lostandfound 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • Lostandfound
    Lostandfound

    Here in Uk we have appalling choice between Cameron / Corby and some also rans

    Are Trump/Clinton best the worlds superpower can offer up? All candidates for office seem to be flawed , are no genuine people putting themselves forward? Are politics such a dirty business that real leaders steer clear?

  • Sanchy
    Sanchy

    Here in the US, we believe the quality of the ppl (and not it's leaders) as individuals is what determines the state of the country; and that it's leaders are only a representation of the state of the people.

    That being the case, one can by it's leaders see where the ppl are. Sadly, more and more citizens are wrapped up with the ignorant bliss of the degraded contemporary culture (aka Kardashians, miley cyrus, etc)

  • Village Idiot
    Village Idiot
    ...are no genuine people putting themselves forward?

    There's Bernie Sanders who got quite a groundswell of support in a short period of time. He's not likely to win but he does represent a sizeable portion of the US.

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  • Village Idiot
    Village Idiot

    Here is an excerpt from a good article on the subject of the choice that Americans have.

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - The U.S. presidential election may turn out to be one of the world's biggest un-popularity contests.

    Nearly half of American voters who support either Democrat Hillary Clinton or Republican Donald Trump for the White House said they will mainly be trying to block the other side from winning, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released Thursday.


  • Sanchy
    Sanchy

    I would have liked to see a contest between Bernie and Ted Cruz. Both authentic believing what they preach deeply to their core. One a socialist and the other a constitutionalist. Put them both up and let the country decide which direction it wants to take.

    Instead we get a choice between a clown and a liar. How exciting.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Lostandfound - "...All candidates for office seem to be flawed, are no genuine people putting themselves forward?..."

    Well...

    ...one could argue that flaws actually make a person genuine.

  • Pete Zahut
    Pete Zahut

    All candidates for office seem to be flawed , are no genuine people putting themselves forward? Are politics such a dirty business that real leaders steer clear?

    What's the Queen's schedule look like for the next four years?

  • redvip2000
    redvip2000

    That being the case, one can by it's leaders see where the ppl are. Sadly, more and more citizens are wrapped up with the ignorant bliss of the degraded contemporary culture (aka Kardashians, miley cyrus, etc)

    Could not have been put better. It's a statement to the type, and numbers of idiot American that roams the streets of any typical US city: Shallow, hateful, impressionable, narcissistic, devoid of any substance.

    This is only an opinion, but I truly think that the extreme views that Trump has which are part of his platform, are not extreme enough for the palate of many Americans. Dare I say that if the needle edged further towards a Hitler type, the support would be just as strong, sadly.

  • Sanchy
    Sanchy

    Could not have been put better. It's a statement to the type, and numbers of idiot American that roams the streets of any typical US city: Shallow, hateful, impressionable, narcissistic, devoid of any substance.

    Though I thank you for agreeing with me, I do not completely agree with this statement. The way I see it is that many Americans have forgotten what their founding was all about. They are too busy with worthless entertainment to care. However i do not think they are "hateful and narcissitic".

    The fact is our culture has become one of "noise" rather than sound logic and reasonable arguments. Think about it. How many ppl are getting their life views from social media (140 characters or less)? The mainstream media goes where? wherever the "noise" is. The louder the noise, the more attention it gets. Its like the saying goes, "the squeaky wheel gets the oil". Trump took advantage of this modern phenomenon, and he mastered it.

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